Just hangs 2

[tungu]

I HAVE MY STORY AND I NEED HELP ALSO
About one year ago my P2 happened just hang all the time. I searched help on the internet but all available advice seem not remedy the case . Those included new anti virus , addware , malware , spyware , troyan , spydoctor etc .. those were not help due to during the scan the computer just hang . I did reload window many times but thing did not improve . One month pass quickly but I learned a lot .

[tungu]

Re: Just hangs

I also replaced the hard drive , reload windows by another CD but not much changed . The Comp still hang after 20 min run , some time not even completed boot .
Then I noticed that at the time the machine hang the screen bright up a little bit . The agp card have its own 32MB and its own fan but quite hot . I thought it could be the video card is faulty and it stop working so we dont see what is running . That turned out to be the case . I replaced the card with another video card then my P2 again working since then .

[tungu]

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Here is a picture of my old problem computer

[tungu]

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[IMG]After it fixed with PIII CPU , 3 pieces of 256MB RAM , video card only 4MB it works happyly thought only support 600x800 graphic .

[tungu]

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BUT NOW I am using my P4 3.2 MHz 2GB RAM ,only 14 months old just out of waranty . It also HANG . that why i have to post my story in short pieces before it hang .

[tungu]

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At the time it hang I heared a click sound like a relay switch , cpu fan still running , screen does not bright up , just simply frozen

[Per Hansson]

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Well on your old computer I can see atleast 4 blown capacitors next to the DIMM slots

I think all of the same brand have failed (I see 3 more on the pic but can't tell if those have bulged or not)

It works fine with the other graphicscard because it uses less power and stresses the system less... (PCI vs AGP also right?)

Does your new computer work in fail safe mode? (press F8 before it starts loading Windows)

It might be hardware related, could be problem with powersupply or mainboard (capacitors too) but that's just a wild guess

It is better if you create your own thread and give it a descriptive title, perhaps the mods can split this one?

Anyways welcome to Badcaps forums!

[willawake]

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*split

can you discuss one computer per thread. so make another thread with your new computer. please give as much info about the system as possible.

[starfury1]

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Iam with you Per they look popped to me...it is hard to tell
In the first pic there are another five that look that way.
Probably same size and brand

But in the second pic the only 2 of the 5 I can see
(near what appears to be a regulator and side of case near CPU)
only look slightly popped at best.

The others look ok but not to say they are.
There is a whole lot behind the CPU PCB too...look ok but as above

symptoms have the hall marks of Badcaps

You have gone down the software trail to no avail by the sounds of it
and also some of the hardware trail

So yeah my bets on caps.

Yes Ideal to post as to separate problems different threads
Also Make/ model of Motherboards or computers

Brands and values of caps too if you can read them
(but motherboard brand and model would be a big help if you cant)

This will help all here quickly nail if its a pcb that is labile to have bad caps
and what they are likely to be.

Also please take a bit of time if you know the make model of motherboard to search the right forum (gigabyte Abit whatever)....

sometimes this will get you the answers you need quicker then waiting on someone to reply to your questions.

I know at the moment your stuck a bit with you computer liable to "go west" (crash) anytime.

Hope this helps please get back to us with what details you can above

Cheers

[tungu]

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Thank all for contribution .
It is true that many of the caps of the old computer ( Gigabyte GA 6BXC ver 2.0 mobo ) are slightly swollen after 7 years working . This make me rethink and keep ( save ) the AGP video card for later use maybe ( Geforce NVIDIA 256DDR ) , I will look deep into that when I have time , that computer now is my daughter's tool for study , it run well , she use it all the time and not complain yet ( though graphic only 800x600 , video card took from old P1).
I concentrated to fix my new computer . Mobo is Asus P5P800S , when I opened the box , I saw the AGP card is very small , the heatsink has no fan and very hot , ( Gigabyte GV-R925128 ) how can the builder forget to fit one in !!. I then fitted a small fan ( took from P1 CPU ) cleaned up the CPU fan and CPU heatsink , tidy up the cable to improve ventilation . When I power up the machine run for a while , then HANG after a “Click” sound . The CPU is cooler than before , AGP card is also cooler but still hot on the upper side . I check the psu is 400W , measurement shows 12.1V and 5.1V . I will fit one more fan tomorrow

[willawake]

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on your new computer what are you plugging your cpu fan into? is that an extension cable? the connection looks strange (not plugged in the middle). is that connected to the motherboard or not?

[kc8adu]

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hangs while clicking is often bad sectors on hdd
that looks like an allied/deer junk psu.
i would pop the lid to inspect.
better yet just replace it.

[tungu]

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3pin FAN1 power from mobo run to temperature control unit ( black rectangular with holes ) hanging in middle of the computerbox , then 3 wires from there go to the cpufan , so that sometime the fan run louder . extra agpfan run from spare socket .

This afternoon I fitted one 80mm fan in place of the front of box , run from FAN2 power of mobo , I also added one chunk of alluminium to the AGP heatsink , infact that was the L bracket of 3mm thick , 20mm + 20mm wide , cut to fit in to place .

After boot up the computer run stable for 90min until I open the box to take some pictures I heard the click sound from the HDD . The machine HANG , the LED of HDD activity is constant on . Was that the air flow not effective due to no cover ? I don't know but I try to put back the cover and reboot , It works until now ( 80 min ) while I processing pictures and go to internet and Badcaps.net , reading kc8adu post . I will let the machine run , making some CD tonight until it hang .

Mother board Asus P5P800S , P4 3.2GHz The HDD is Seagate 160GB 7200rpm IDE , Netcom 56k pci modem , Ethenet and sound on mobo , 1.44 FDD & multi card reader , LG 16xDVD&CD RW , Leadtek TV2000XP tv capture card , Gigabyte GV R925128DE 128MB agpcard , is that too heavy for 380W psu , It seem my HDD fail soon I am thinking of hook up another Hardisk to backup my data , is that possible .

Now 110min without hang . Wait and see .

[tungu]

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130min without hanging
The cardboard in the 2nd pic above that I try to redirect the airflow.
My post #4 had 1 error please correct that I have 3 pieces of 128MB ram

[tungu]

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I wake up and see the machine still running , aalmost 9 hrs . The CD led and HDD led time by time flashing that the MP3 program is still working continuously with the CD driver . More confusing I found someone blame the mobo P5P800s in this forum , https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3056
I have not seen any swollen cap on my board yet . How to check the HDD further ?

[WNG]

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Download Speedfan and run it. It will retrieve all sensor outputs and even grab SMART data from HDDs. See what the error logging data say, and the temp of the HDD.

Run a disk surface scan to see if you have any damage to platters first.
If the HHD SMART info is ok, and no scan is ok, I suspect a poor psu. Only time I had such clicking from hdd was when an AT psu wasn't able to support my system. It damaged the HDD platters!

IMO, the agp card doesn't need that bracket, it's overkill. You already have fan cooling added and that should be more than enough.

If the interior of the case is too hot, add an exhaust (puller) fan to the rear, it'll be more effective than the front pusher, although the front fan helps keep the HDD cool.