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**Galvanized** · 01-25-2007, 09:17 AM

Re: Losing my mind.....

*shudders at RAM price$*

Abit is on the up-swing, or so it seems. There have been a number of new ASUS boards with boot or constant re-boot issues posted at Anand's. I have a hunch it's cold solder joints.

Sell the 450W SP after you buy a Corsair HX520 at buy.com for $80AR at Google check-out w/free shipping. This is a semi-modular unit with a five year warrenty, built by Seasonic on it's M-12 platform. It is filled with Nipponese caps vs the SP's Fuhjyyu caps. It has been reviewed very well indeed.

Have fun!

**willawake** · 01-25-2007, 09:31 AM

Re: Losing my mind.....

i second on the psu
why get the cheapest burner
why not get sataii drives and put the os on a raptor
or just get ultra320 scsi

**Per Hansson** · 01-25-2007, 10:27 AM

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That computer is going to want atleast a Raptor to feel nice... The difference on an otherwise so awsome system will be very large...

The faster the system the bigger the harddrive bottleneck becomes...

700$ in RAM? For that I'd expect 4GB (and I am being honest)

And yea, the CPU is also on the expensive side... 4 cores wont have that much use in most apps... Unless you do an unhealthy ammount of multitasking, but if you manage to keep all 4 CPU's busy I'd have to ask how much work you really get done :P

Because as I understand it this is going to be a desktop system right?

**Topcat** · 01-25-2007, 10:29 AM

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I'm slacking................ I took down a few of my folders to make way for the 'showdown' machines... I don't really need 10 PC's running in here, so a few had to go.

Nice specs Mikey! I'll drink to that box!!

**willawake** · 01-25-2007, 10:43 AM

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700$ in RAM? For that I'd expect 4GB (and I am being honest)

looks like 2 twin packs there so it is 4gb

**willawake** · 01-25-2007, 10:48 AM

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Because as I understand it this is going to be a desktop system right?

were talking to a man who's idea of adequate transportation is a dodge ram

**Fizzycapola2** · 01-25-2007, 03:39 PM

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RAM seems expensive, the newer Dominator ram with the larger heatsink I found
for $500 per 2GB PC8500 kit (CAS5 though).

My Antec PSU was very weak btw, what Amps is that one, it seems very weak for future upgrading, the latest graphics cards recommend 600w / 30Amp rail minimum.

I'm also making a new PC, so far I have the Antec Nine Hundred case, not sure on the rest, I have Dominator PC8500 ordered, I'm thinking about saving money on the CPU and investing it in a good board such as Gigabyte DQ6 and a decent cooling solution, I won't tolerate any CPU going over 40 centigrade. Graphics card is a pain because everybody wants 800w PSU and prices so high, my case requires an Easy-Con style one, but can't find one as yet.

The hardrive series 9, I have one of those, but isn't there a series 10 now? no idea if it's better, but 5 year warranty

Raptor drives? dont' they generate heat and noise?

**willawake** · 01-25-2007, 04:06 PM

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seagate have 7200.10 which are the sataii drives.

edit: no those above are sata ii also

i wonder how a workstation at same price would compare to that desktop in performance.

**stretch0069** · 01-25-2007, 04:21 PM

Re: Losing my mind.....

Originally posted by willawake

were talking to a man who's idea of adequate transportation is a dodge ram

you forgot to mention that its a V10

Yeah the RAM is two 2-stick sets. 2GB per set. I thought $700 for 4GB wasn't too bad.

I'm wanting to set this up as a video editing box. I noticed a big difference between a single P4 to a dual P3 (VP6) then to the dual core P4. The dual core P4 smokes during rendering.

As for the burner, I just wanted something in there.

I'll check on a different case w/o a PSU and go that route, Galvanized. Thanks for the info.

I've fallen behind on HDD info. I just figured 3GB SATA would be good. Guess I'll have to go back and do a bit more investigation.

oh well

**Galvanized** · 01-25-2007, 05:01 PM

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For cases I like Lian Li but the cheap PC-7s tend to be a little flimsy.

For guys that don't mind having a door, like Antec cases, want 120 fans front / rear but want inexpensive...The Antec SLK3000B is worth considering. Amazon.com was nearly giving them away several months ago but now they want $60+ just like Buy.com does.
For $29 http://www.provantage.com/antec-slk3000b~7ANTG02Y.htm
Reviewed http://www.silentpcreview.com/article210-page1.html
I'm not sure if a quieter 120X38 will fit in the front of the SLK. If not, the drive cage would need bumping back.

For a decent selection of cheap cases look to SVC.com, Dealsonic.com or directron.com.

**stretch0069** · 02-07-2007, 02:27 AM

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Ok....I took some advice. How about this? These will be ready for Quad cores when they come down in price. These will immediately replace my two VP6s. Doing a little gaming at the pad. Nothing serious, just something to do. Oh...did I mention they'll be folding????

SAMSUNG 18X DVD±R DVD Burner With 12X DVD-RAM Write Black E-IDE/ATAPI Model SH-S182D - OEM
Item #: N82E16827151133 $59.98
($29.99 each)

Antec Solution SLK3000-B Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Item #: N82E16811129152 $109.98
($54.99 each)

NEC Black 1.44MB 3.5" Internal Floppy Drive - OEM
Item #: N82E16821152005 $12.50
($6.25 each)

Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250820AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Item #: N82E16822148142 $749.90
($74.99 each)

ATI 100-435846 Radeon X1950 CrossFire Edition 512MB GDDR4 PCI Express x16 HDCP CrossFire Video Card - Retail
Item #: N82E16814195025 $779.98
($389.99 each)

CORSAIR CMPSU-520HX ATX12V v2.2 and EPS12V 2.91 520W Power Supply - Retail
Item #:N82E16817139001 $279.98
$259.98
($129.99 each)

CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X2048-8500C5 - Retail
Item #: N82E16820145033 $704.00
($352.00 each)

ABIT AW9D-MAX LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813127011 $439.98
$419.98
($209.99 each)

Microsoft Windows XP Pro SP2b 1pk w/Upgrade Coupon for Vista - OEM
Item #: N82E16832116175 $277.98
($138.99 each)

Subtotal: $3,374.28

Shipping: $66.20

Grand Total: $3,440.48

**WNG** · 02-07-2007, 06:08 PM

Re: Losing my mind.....

Originally posted by Galvanized

For a decent selection of cheap cases look to SVC.com, Dealsonic.com or directron.com.

Boy, cheap is an understatement for some of the cases from Dealsonic.com.
I bought one microATX case that looked kinda nice on their website. But when I got it, it was paper thin steel. And the front plastic panel was spray-painted, not colored plastic! It smelled nasty as heck! And with overspray all over the place. The 400W P4 ready psu was lighter than an old 85W Lite-On psu out of an old socket-7 e-machines pc.

Thank god I was able to sell it off.

**308nato** · 02-07-2007, 06:46 PM

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Intel Bad Axe2 would be a good choice for your board and this link has a great price.

Antec P180B or In silver for 79.99 after rebate.

2 cents worth

**stretch0069** · 02-08-2007, 12:47 AM

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Thanks 308 (like the name too

)

Not sure how I like the PS on the bottom. Might mull it over a bit. I did look at the BadAxe a while back.

I continue to take input. It'll be a few weeks before I do this....maybe. Depends on how drunk I get this weekend (mine starts now......i love 4 day weekends

) and how close fatal is getting to me.

**willawake** · 02-08-2007, 02:17 AM

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that is a fine price for the bad axe2

**Galvanized** · 02-08-2007, 11:18 AM

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The Corsair HX520 can be had now for $99 and maybe free shipping from buy.com. Last month it was $80.

Both Corsair units are very good kit but do read / post over at jonnyguru.com if you want / need final input on PSU selection.

**308nato** · 02-08-2007, 09:18 PM

Re: Losing my mind.....

Originally posted by Galvanized

The Corsair HX520 can be had now for $99 and maybe free shipping from buy.com. Last month it was $80.

Both Corsair units are very good kit but do read / post over at jonnyguru.com if you want / need final input on PSU selection.

Someone has new Avatar

......or is that just a photo of you at lunch today?

I keep wanting to pull the trigger on the big Corsair but ther are so many good supplies out now I keep waiting for THE deal.

**Galvanized** · 02-08-2007, 10:04 PM

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That is Maria between sets thinking of me as she snacks.

Yeah right!

I do like her but she is human...Thank God!

The Corsair will be semi-modular and be populated with Nipponese caps. It will be quiet. It is a Seasonic M-12 w/o the aux 60mm fan. It has a 5 year warrenty vs the Seasonic's 3.

The new Silverstone OP650 is worth the two week wait for reviews if one wants/needs 12V@54A on a single rail. I think it will be filled with Teapo and built at Enhance's new Taiwan factory. It will not be a loud unit..I hope.
Sells for $130 now, should drop in price after 90 days.

For bulletproof build quality, look no further than Etasis. The Silverstone Zeus series is built by Etasis and the big E will be marketing their own. Won't be uber-quiet but not server loud either(80mm fan).

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