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  • POM_MJ
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Aug 2009
    • 228
    #1

    Help identify this ELNA caps please

    I just bought ELNA 4,700uF/16v
    my camera has no battery now, the picture will upload later, sorry.

    here are it's details,
    case size: 12.5x35mm.
    gold printed on black sleeve

    16 v
    (M)
    4700uF
    ---- ---- ----- |
    > - >> - >> - > ======
    ---- ---- ----- |
    ELNA ELNA

    CE105'C
    0735
    (S)

    top vent mark is --)-

    bottom look like
    ||
    (o)||(o)
    ||

    I've download ELNA catalogs 2004, 2006-2007, 2007-2008 and 2008-2009
    and not found any matched of spec. 12.5x35mm. 4700uF/16v

    I would like to know it's series and specifications.
    please help me find it's datasheet.
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    • kc8adu
      Super Moderator
      • Nov 2003
      • 8832
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      #2
      Re: Help identify this ELNA caps please

      gold on black elna's i have here are special audio caps.yours were made week 35 of 2007.

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        • POM_MJ
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Aug 2009
          • 228
          #3
          Re: Help identify this ELNA caps please

          Why they doesn't found matched in catalogs.
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            • PCBONEZ
              Grumpy Old Fart
              • Aug 2005
              • 10661
              • USA
              #4
              Re: Help identify this ELNA caps please

              Yes. I think Black-Gold says audio.
              All their 'normal' ltyics have white writing.
              Might be a special order size.
              Most of their audio caps are 85c.
              I think only one audio series is 105c.
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                • POM_MJ
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 228
                  #5
                  Re: Help identify this ELNA caps please

                  It's look like RK series very much, just 105'C and gold printed.
                  Could be possible to get exactly datasheet of it, or Is it fake?
                  Is it suitable for Power Supply output filter on 12V rails?
                  please advise.

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                    • PCBONEZ
                      Grumpy Old Fart
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 10661
                      • USA
                      #6
                      Re: Help identify this ELNA caps please

                      Might be fake.
                      Might be a custom ordered size.

                      No series name shown makes me wonder.
                      Does it even say Elna on it?

                      The thing to do is look at similar equipment and figure out what is normally used where ever it came from.
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                        • POM_MJ
                          Badcaps Veteran
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 228
                          #7
                          Re: Help identify this ELNA caps please

                          Originally posted by PCBONEZ
                          Might be fake.
                          Might be a custom ordered size.

                          No series name shown makes me wonder.
                          Does it even say Elna on it?

                          The thing to do is look at similar equipment and figure out what is normally used where ever it came from.
                          .
                          Yes, text ELNA printed bottom of negative band, look same as the photo of RK series, no series name also.
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                            • POM_MJ
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 228
                              #8
                              Re: Help identify this ELNA caps please

                              update the pictures





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                                • Brian C
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Dec 2006
                                  • 156
                                  #9
                                  Re: Help identify this ELNA caps please

                                  Those are genuine ELNA capacitors (custom made) for car audio application. Not RK or low ESR series, just 105oC ... maybe equivalent to Panasonic NHG or Chemicon KMG, KME
                                  Last edited by Brian C; 11-21-2009, 07:30 AM.

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                                    • PCBONEZ
                                      Grumpy Old Fart
                                      • Aug 2005
                                      • 10661
                                      • USA
                                      #10
                                      Re: Help identify this ELNA caps please

                                      Those aren't RK simply because the temp is wrong.

                                      That circle-S in place of a series designation suggests to me they are special ordered caps but that is just a guess.
                                      They are either fakes or special order.
                                      They aren't using the el'cheapo bungs so my best guess would be special order.

                                      Short of sending samples to Elna for validation there is no way to know for sure.
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                                        • POM_MJ
                                          Badcaps Veteran
                                          • Aug 2009
                                          • 228
                                          #11
                                          Re: Help identify this ELNA caps please

                                          How to get their datasheet or no where because of they're custom made?
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                                            • PCBONEZ
                                              Grumpy Old Fart
                                              • Aug 2005
                                              • 10661
                                              • USA
                                              #12
                                              Re: Help identify this ELNA caps please

                                              THX Brian C. - I don't see that many Elna.
                                              Your post wasn't there when I started writing.
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                                                • PCBONEZ
                                                  Grumpy Old Fart
                                                  • Aug 2005
                                                  • 10661
                                                  • USA
                                                  #13
                                                  Re: Help identify this ELNA caps please

                                                  Originally posted by POM_MJ
                                                  How to get their datasheet or no where because of they're custom made?
                                                  You probably can't.
                                                  Elna might be nice and send it to you if you contact them but odds are without a contact number for the order [so they know who they made them for] they won't even know.
                                                  .
                                                  If you can't measure the ESR you'll have to just guess.
                                                  .
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                                                  -
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                                                  -
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                                                  -

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                                                    • POM_MJ
                                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                                      • Aug 2009
                                                      • 228
                                                      #14
                                                      Re: Help identify this ELNA caps please

                                                      I've put one of them to a PSU on 12V rails (single 12V cap, L filter), 12V look ok. He He.
                                                      Normally, How long of their ELNA caps for audio life?
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                                                        • Brian C
                                                          Senior Member
                                                          • Dec 2006
                                                          • 156
                                                          #15
                                                          Re: Help identify this ELNA caps please

                                                          Originally posted by POM_MJ
                                                          I've put one of them to a PSU on 12V rails (single 12V cap, L filter), 12V look ok. He He.
                                                          Normally, How long of their ELNA caps for audio life?
                                                          As long as temp and ripple current does not exceed the capacitor ratings, it should be fine.

                                                          I don't think it s a good choice to use those ELNA caps on PSU 12v rails. I will try to post the specification of similar ELNA 16V, 3300uF on Monday. The ripple current rating is quite low IIRC.

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                                                            • POM_MJ
                                                              Badcaps Veteran
                                                              • Aug 2009
                                                              • 228
                                                              #16
                                                              Re: Help identify this ELNA caps please

                                                              to used for PSU, between these ELNA 4700/16V and Samxon GF series (only I can get locally) 2200/16V, Which one would be better?

                                                              Thankyou for every replies.
                                                              Last edited by POM_MJ; 11-21-2009, 09:00 AM.
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                                                                • berniedd
                                                                  Senior Member
                                                                  • Mar 2007
                                                                  • 119
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Re: Help identify this ELNA caps please

                                                                  The Samxons are your best bet. I use GF Samxons too, never got a failure.

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                                                                    • PCBONEZ
                                                                      Grumpy Old Fart
                                                                      • Aug 2005
                                                                      • 10661
                                                                      • USA
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Re: Help identify this ELNA caps please

                                                                      The ESR is more important that uF but I think I'd order some Samxon RS 3300uF 16v from Big Pope.
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