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  • jonnyGURU
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Feb 2006
    • 244
    • United States

    #1

    Samson (not SamXon) capacitors

    We ran into these in some Topower built units.

    When Topower was confronted about using counterfeit SamXon caps, they swore up and down that Samson was legit and provided this PDF:



    As if this somehow makes me feel better about "Samson."

    I tried to send this to http://capacitor.web.fc2.com/ a couple days ago to add to his list but have not seen it added, nor have I heard back from him. Perhaps he speaks zero English?
    Rest in peace BFG. You were... a job...
  • acstech
    GrumpyModerator
    • Jul 2007
    • 1432
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Samson (not SamXon) capacitors

    I dont know that I'd trust any capacitor from China. Reading what I could of the PDF; AFAIK, Shenzhen = place in China.
    A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.

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    • Per Hansson
      Super Moderator
      • Jul 2005
      • 5895
      • Sweden

      #3
      Re: Samson (not SamXon) capacitors

      Haha, yea, it's probably just a coisidence that only one letter in their name is different, NOT!

      What a bunch of morons
      "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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      • kikkoman
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Jul 2007
        • 691

        #4
        Re: Samson (not SamXon) capacitors

        In the pdf there are pictures of all sorts of caps on PCBs - OSCON, UCC PSA etc..... but not their own ones.
        Cool.
        and a bunch of chimps could make a better pdf.
        "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken

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        • kc8adu
          Super Moderator
          • Nov 2003
          • 8832
          • U.S.A!

          #5
          Re: Samson (not SamXon) capacitors

          whole lot of meaningless bullshit in that pdf.
          looks like they are trying to confuse folks being close to samsung and samxon

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          • jonnyGURU
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Feb 2006
            • 244
            • United States

            #6
            Re: Samson (not SamXon) capacitors

            Originally posted by acstech
            Shenzhen = place in China.
            Correct. Mainland China.
            Rest in peace BFG. You were... a job...

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            • Super Nade
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Jun 2006
              • 294

              #7
              Re: Samson (not SamXon) capacitors

              Link is dead Jon. Did I miss the fun?
              Q6700 @ 3.6 GHz
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              Curcial Ballistix PC6400 (4 x 1Gb) Micron D9GMH
              Abit IP35Pro
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              • acstech
                GrumpyModerator
                • Jul 2007
                • 1432
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Samson (not SamXon) capacitors

                Just in case you dont read Japanese:

                http://translate.google.com/translat...com/%26hl%3Den

                Copy and pasted, hope it works.
                A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.

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                • Krankshaft
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 2328
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Samson (not SamXon) capacitors

                  Just another crap caps manufacturer trying to hide in the shadow of Samxon in order to boost sales with Samxon's reputation.

                  I've seen Sammyxion, Samwha, Samyoung, and Samxion, and thats only the ones I can remember.

                  A day ago I saw another cap brand Hongda.

                  Now I wonder what company they were playing off ?

                  Boy will they be pissed when they find out that they don't manufacture caps .
                  Last edited by Krankshaft; 12-12-2007, 09:50 AM.
                  Elements of the past and the future combining to make something not quite as good as either.

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                  • Super Nade
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 294

                    #10
                    Re: Samson (not SamXon) capacitors

                    As if Topower isn't dodgy enough already, now they are trying to rip off BFG with a crap cap scam...
                    Q6700 @ 3.6 GHz
                    Zippy GSM-6600P
                    Curcial Ballistix PC6400 (4 x 1Gb) Micron D9GMH
                    Abit IP35Pro
                    ATi HD4870

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                    • jonnyGURU
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 244
                      • United States

                      #11
                      Re: Samson (not SamXon) capacitors

                      Originally posted by Super Nade
                      Link is dead Jon. Did I miss the fun?
                      We were trying to migrate the DNS to the new server last night (which was a failure). The link should work now.

                      Originally posted by Super Nade
                      As if Topower isn't dodgy enough already, now they are trying to rip off BFG with a crap cap scam...
                      They're not trying anything with BFG. We saw this in another Topower built unit. See HardOCP's Tagan review that went up today.
                      Rest in peace BFG. You were... a job...

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                      • jonnyGURU
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 244
                        • United States

                        #12
                        Re: Samson (not SamXon) capacitors

                        Originally posted by acstech
                        Just in case you dont read Japanese:

                        http://translate.google.com/translat...com/%26hl%3Den

                        Copy and pasted, hope it works.
                        Yeah, I think the complaint was the the PDF was in Chinese.

                        I only mentioned CapacitorWeb because I emailed him and he didn't respond.
                        Rest in peace BFG. You were... a job...

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                        • Super Nade
                          Badcaps Veteran
                          • Jun 2006
                          • 294

                          #13
                          Re: Samson (not SamXon) capacitors

                          I couldn't make out head or tail out of that manual, but it is funny how pictures of other caps on mobo's and PCB's are liberally thrown in. Why would somebody throw in Sanyo or Matsushita pictures instead of their own?
                          Q6700 @ 3.6 GHz
                          Zippy GSM-6600P
                          Curcial Ballistix PC6400 (4 x 1Gb) Micron D9GMH
                          Abit IP35Pro
                          ATi HD4870

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                          • Big Pope
                            Approved Vendor
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 426

                            #14
                            Re: Samson (not SamXon) capacitors

                            Originally posted by jonnyGURU
                            Yeah, I think the complaint was the the PDF was in Chinese.

                            I only mentioned CapacitorWeb because I emailed him and he didn't respond.
                            Many thanks, Jonny.

                            I am very surprising after i read the pdf. Firstly, there is XCON brand, like Man Yue(Samxon) new solid caps brand "X-CON". Secondly, they claimed have relationship with NCC.

                            Thank you very much for these information, I will inform Man Yue soon.

                            P.S. Actually, this is a confidential document and use for company internal only from Samson.
                            Attached Files
                            Last edited by Big Pope; 12-13-2007, 07:01 AM.
                            My SAMXON Capacitors Database HERE!!

                            X-CON is a new brand for SAMXON's Polymer Capacitors.

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                            • kc8adu
                              Super Moderator
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 8832
                              • U.S.A!

                              #15
                              Re: Samson (not SamXon) capacitors

                              Originally posted by Big Pope
                              Many thanks, Jonny.

                              I am very surprising after i read the pdf. Firstly, there is XCON brand, like Man Yue(Samxon) new solid caps brand "X-CON". Secondly, they claimed have relationship with NCC.

                              Thank you very much for these information, I will inform Man Yue soon.

                              P.S. Actually, this is a confidential document and use for company internal only from Samson.
                              looks like they have a leak!
                              the .pdf is funny even if i cant read chinese.
                              i saved a copy here in case it were to dissapear.oh shit! poof!
                              Last edited by kc8adu; 12-13-2007, 07:17 AM.

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                              • Super Nade
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • Jun 2006
                                • 294

                                #16
                                Re: Samson (not SamXon) capacitors

                                I saved one too
                                Q6700 @ 3.6 GHz
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                                ATi HD4870

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                                • jonnyGURU
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Feb 2006
                                  • 244
                                  • United States

                                  #17
                                  Re: Samson (not SamXon) capacitors

                                  Originally posted by Big Pope
                                  P.S. Actually, this is a confidential document and use for company internal only from Samson.
                                  Oh snap! I don't want to get anyone at Topower in trouble. They just sent me the PDF stating that the company is legit and does exist. Nothing about the doc being confidential.
                                  Rest in peace BFG. You were... a job...

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                                  • kikkoman
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Jul 2007
                                    • 691

                                    #18
                                    Re: Samson (not SamXon) capacitors

                                    Originally posted by Super Nade
                                    I saved one too
                                    Let's hope it doesn't vent and spill shit all over your data.
                                    "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken

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                                    • Big Pope
                                      Approved Vendor
                                      • Dec 2005
                                      • 426

                                      #19
                                      Re: Samson (not SamXon) capacitors

                                      Originally posted by jonnyGURU
                                      Oh snap! I don't want to get anyone at Topower in trouble. They just sent me the PDF stating that the company is legit and does exist. Nothing about the doc being confidential.
                                      Don't worry. Yes, the company is legit. That factory is really very small, i understand why they don't have any informations on google.

                                      You got the factory's profile only, i am interest to see their products(capacitors) datasheets more.
                                      My SAMXON Capacitors Database HERE!!

                                      X-CON is a new brand for SAMXON's Polymer Capacitors.

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