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Whats the best brand of non-japanese capacitors?

10-31-2011, 08:17 PM

Been thinking about this for some time now... whats the best brand of non-jap caps?

Even though I have seen a ton of WB series failures, I am putting my money on Samwha, followed by Lelon and L-tec.

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10-31-2011, 09:20 PM

Re: Whats the best brand of non-japanese capacitors?

GSC/Sacon, followed by Fuhjyyu

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I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

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10-31-2011, 09:33 PM

Re: Whats the best brand of non-japanese capacitors?

Originally posted by c_hegge

GSC/Sacon, followed by Fuhjyyu

I'm looking for the best of the rest, not the worst.
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10-31-2011, 10:34 PM

Re: Whats the best brand of non-japanese capacitors?

oh whoops. I thought you said worst. The best is samxon

I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

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11-01-2011, 04:27 AM

Re: Whats the best brand of non-japanese capacitors?

Mine would be Jamicon.

My first choice in quality Japanese electrolytics is Nippon Chemi-Con, which has been in business since 1931... the quality of electronics is dependent on the quality of the electrolytics.
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11-01-2011, 05:03 AM

Re: Whats the best brand of non-japanese capacitors?

Originally posted by c_hegge

oh whoops. I thought you said worst. The best is samxon

Of course, excluding the problem series like GF and GL. The better ones like Samxon GD (GOOD) series are actually more reliable than some japanese caps, namely Chemi-con KZG and KZJ and that TK brand (short for Terrible Kapacitor IIRC)

I suppose some other taiwanese companies that don't make Low ESR caps, such as jamicon like japlytic suggested, are probably reliable as well, but are not suited to use in PC hardware. Lelon does not belong on this list at all. They are right down there with fuhjyyu.

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I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

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11-01-2011, 11:42 AM

Re: Whats the best brand of non-japanese capacitors?

Ill have to agree with c_hegge on this one i think, Samxon minus the crap series like GF. Seen busted Samwha in many products. Lelon and L-tec i still haven't come across so cant comment on those.
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11-01-2011, 01:35 PM

Re: Whats the best brand of non-japanese capacitors?

Originally posted by c_hegge

Of course, excluding the problem series like GF and GL. The better ones like Samxon GD (GOOD) series are actually more reliable than some japanese caps, namely Chemi-con KZG and KZJ and that TK brand (short for Terrible Kapacitor IIRC)

I suppose some other taiwanese companies that don't make Low ESR caps, such as jamicon like japlytic suggested, are probably reliable as well, but are not suited to use in PC hardware. Lelon does not belong on this list at all. They are right down there with fuhjyyu.

I thought TK was somehow related to OST?
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11-01-2011, 02:50 PM

Re: Whats the best brand of non-japanese capacitors?

They are distributed by OST, but are made in japan

I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

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11-03-2011, 10:51 PM

Re: Whats the best brand of non-japanese capacitors?

Illinois Capacitor?
For that matter I haven't seen a failed Hitano yet in person.

The ever-amazing (and ever-affordable) KY, Chemi-con's best kept secret.

I'll probably be the only person going to SteamOS once it gets out of beta (ha ha.)
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11-04-2011, 12:42 AM

Re: Whats the best brand of non-japanese capacitors?

They are distributed by OST, but are made in japan

No, they're distributed by TK in Japan, but made in Taiwan by OST. Unreliable caps.
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11-04-2011, 12:46 AM

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^^I'm pretty sure it's the other way

I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

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11-04-2011, 01:16 AM

Re: Whats the best brand of non-japanese capacitors?

My theory makes more sense... Otherwise they'd be reliable. Everyone knows TK is not a reliable brand...
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11-04-2011, 02:14 AM

Re: Whats the best brand of non-japanese capacitors?

Not necessarily. KZG are japanese, but are they reliable? What about the pre-2005 Nichicon HMs? Coming from Japan does NOT in any way mean that a capacitor will be reliable.

I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

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11-04-2011, 09:42 AM

Re: Whats the best brand of non-japanese capacitors?

But UCC makes very reliable series, except for KZG/KZJ/TMZ/TMV....

TK doesn't make ANY reliable series.
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11-04-2011, 10:32 AM

Re: Whats the best brand of non-japanese capacitors?

Originally posted by japlytic

Mine would be Jamicon.

For general purpose, i agree. A step up would be Epcos and Kendeil. For SMPS stuff, Samxon gets my vote.

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11-04-2011, 12:51 PM

Re: Whats the best brand of non-japanese capacitors?

Originally posted by mockingbird

My theory makes more sense... Otherwise they'd be reliable. Everyone knows TK is not a reliable brand...

Not really. Making something in china, and distributing it to Japan to Taiwanese and Chinese motherboard and video card manufacturers doesn't make sense.
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11-05-2011, 06:34 PM

Re: Whats the best brand of non-japanese capacitors?

Not really. Making something in china, and distributing it to Japan to Taiwanese and Chinese motherboard and video card manufacturers doesn't make sense.

It makes sense if a Taiwanese company is trying to pass off some of their products as Japanese...
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11-08-2011, 01:00 PM

Re: Whats the best brand of non-japanese capacitors?

Why I don't trust Chinese anything: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...11-08-13-41-48
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11-08-2011, 01:24 PM

Re: Whats the best brand of non-japanese capacitors?

That's just another press release/template text pushed to promote e-parasite and that other pro copyright bill.

Most of those fake things were actually contracted by the government after international bids and all that.

it's like the story of the firemen doing press release supporting e-parasite because apparently smoke detectors were fake but...

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it turns out it's all bullshit.

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