Philips Pus 436401/12 flashing backlights question

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  • KevM
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    • Feb 2021
    • 17
    • united kingdom

    #21
    Re: Philips Pus 436401/12 flashing backlights question

    Yes i did remove one of the small SMD resistor on both ICs to slightly limit the current flow ,my thinking was the new leds may be rated different but did not make any difference so i haven't replaced it as yet .I am thinking along the lines as you, open circuit on the LED- which gives me the voltage fluctuation mentioned in post 1 the heat sinks do seem to get quite hot and i cannot find a data sheet for the TPV101AD chip. Ill test the diode mentioned and try to see if i can make sense of the IC readings.

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    • Diah
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2013
      • 6343
      • Germany

      #22
      Re: Philips Pus 436401/12 flashing backlights question

      Originally posted by KevM
      the heat sinks do seem to get quite hot and i cannot find a data sheet for the TPV101AD chip. Ill test the diode mentioned and try to see if i can make sense of the IC readings.
      this is service manual for yours BL circuit which it used by sharp too.. you can check TPV101AD
      Attached Files

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      • KevM
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        • Feb 2021
        • 17
        • united kingdom

        #23
        Re: Philips Pus 436401/12 flashing backlights question

        great thanks for that

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        • KevM
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          • Feb 2021
          • 17
          • united kingdom

          #24
          Re: Philips Pus 436401/12 flashing backlights question

          Just a quick update i flipped the board over with the intention of testing volts on the Ics and decided to try the freeze test and see if any component warmed quicker than the other . After switch on i normally get 15 seconds before the LEDs flash on and off but it was around 2 minutes before the on/off sequence started and only the 2 tpv101s got warmer quicker than anything else. Vcc was 12v and dim was 3.3v constant. Ill do more testing tonight when i get home.

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          • nomoresonys
            Badcaps Legend
            • Jan 2013
            • 12081
            • U.S.

            #25
            Re: Philips Pus 436401/12 flashing backlights question

            Wonder if caps c8624 and or c8627 might be a little weak, maybe double check that all the backlight connections are solid, did you use a backlight tester or test each led?

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            • KevM
              Member
              • Feb 2021
              • 17
              • united kingdom

              #26
              Re: Philips Pus 436401/12 flashing backlights question

              thanks all leds are brand new and they test good with an led tester. Check continuity on the wiring and checked ok i will check the caps you mentioned and possibly swap them out as i have a scrap G7350 board with very similar set up which strangely enough does not have the 2 low ohm resistors just a jumper in place.

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              • Diah
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2013
                • 6343
                • Germany

                #27
                Re: Philips Pus 436401/12 flashing backlights question

                TPV101AD the way they are warm and the effect of heating left on print boards.. time to replace them both with out thinking twice.

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                • KevM
                  Member
                  • Feb 2021
                  • 17
                  • united kingdom

                  #28
                  Re: Philips Pus 436401/12 flashing backlights question

                  hi Been away for a couple of days so only just read the post .
                  Unfortunately tpv101D is only available from china and have had bad experience of fake items from china. Is there a better alternative to that chip with same/ better specifications available from UK supplier.

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                  • Diah
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 6343
                    • Germany

                    #29
                    Re: Philips Pus 436401/12 flashing backlights question

                    Originally posted by KevM
                    hi Been away for a couple of days so only just read the post .
                    Unfortunately tpv101D is only available from china and have had bad experience of fake items from china. Is there a better alternative to that chip with same/ better specifications available from UK supplier.
                    they are made in china.. UK / EU/ USA didn't make them.. and they are not a complex IC. so don't hesitated to place order from uncle XIN

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                    • KevM
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                      • Feb 2021
                      • 17
                      • united kingdom

                      #30
                      Re: Philips Pus 436401/12 flashing backlights question

                      quite agree that just about everything {tv wise} on the forum originates from china i will order and get back to you when they arrive and fitted .

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                      • betmen
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2019
                        • 89
                        • Croatia

                        #31
                        Re: Philips Pus 436401/12 flashing backlights question

                        Originally posted by KevM
                        quite agree that just about everything {tv wise} on the forum originates from china i will order and get back to you when they arrive and fitted .
                        Did you changed TPV101D chips and did you repair backlight?
                        I have similar problem with my tv...
                        Last edited by betmen; 07-20-2022, 05:52 AM. Reason: spelling

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                        • nomoresonys
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                          • Jan 2013
                          • 12081
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                          #32
                          Re: Philips Pus 436401/12 flashing backlights question

                          Originally posted by KevM
                          quite agree that just about everything {tv wise} on the forum originates from china i will order and get back to you when they arrive and fitted .
                          5 months? must be the slowest boat from china ever, or maybe he's just too busy to bother reporting back.

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                          • nomoresonys
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                            • Jan 2013
                            • 12081
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                            #33
                            Re: Philips Pus 436401/12 flashing backlights question

                            So we're left to speculate that, the 2 ics fixed it or he fixed it another way or he gave up???

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                            • KevM
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                              • Feb 2021
                              • 17
                              • united kingdom

                              #34
                              Re: Philips Pus 436401/12 flashing backlights question

                              In answer to the last post on here yes i did give up or rather put it to bed for a while. But i will now tell what the outcome was or what i discovered was that my tv which was an auction site cheap buy and had been repaired before and fitted with a replacement power board which was not the correct one for my tv.
                              It should have been a philips 715G-7350 but was instead a 715G-6973 which is known to have the problem when backlights are changed.

                              The tv worked fine for around a year or more till the problem occured and only when an exact same model came up on an well known auction site and i won it with the intention of salvaging 2 tvs into one that i discovered the dicrepancy.

                              So i now have a functioning tv simply by having the correct power board in.

                              so anyone with the same problem check which power board you have and best of luck trying to find a 715G 7350 as they seem to be like gold dust.

                              post concluded unlike a lot of others on here. many thanks for peoples input.

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                              • nomoresonys
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Jan 2013
                                • 12081
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                                #35
                                Re: Philips Pus 436401/12 flashing backlights question

                                You solved it, good to hear. Lots of people work hard here trying to help people, so hopefully it isn't asking TOO much, to get an update, doesn't really matter to me but I do consider it very bad manners to just quit responding in the middle. I always just assume they wandered into the Bermuda Triangle or Quicksand or got hit by a bus etc, etc...
                                Last edited by nomoresonys; 04-01-2023, 11:45 AM.

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