Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

[Diah]

Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

No, this ceramic cap are fine.. dont play with inverter boards to avoid make damage.
put the pin 6 in place . and the socket too, measure volts on DC , black probe on chassis and the red probe on each VCC only, remark the reading when tv turn on how high and low they go. so we will close which group are defect.

[Eggbert43]

Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

That didn't help, in fact the Splash Screen flashes quicker & dimmer now.

I'm not confident that I accurately measured the Voltage on Pin 6; maybe my DMM plugs weren't touching the pins properly or something. So I'm going to put Pin 6 back & test again, before possibly trying my luck with Pin 2 removed.

I do however have another idea which I would like to run by you; it involves the MPE Capacitor located right next to the connector in question, circled in red at the top left of the attached image. My TC1 LCR Tester is telling me that it's a Diode!!
Is this a sign that it could be damaged/faulty?
Could this component, if faulty, be responsible?

Thanks

[Diah]

Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

Very interesting idea, will definitely try it....

LED 1 is a concern also though.... Can it really work with only 3 LEDs? 2 LEDs even?

i think only pin 6 the fault one... so just try this pin.

[Eggbert43]

Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

Very interesting idea, will definitely try it....

LED 1 is a concern also though.... Can it really work with only 3 LEDs? 2 LEDs even?

[Diah]

Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

VCC (Pin 1) >> LED 1 (Pin 2) = 37V Powering On & 4.0V Post Boot
VCC (Pin 1) >> LED 2 (Pin 3) = 65V Powering On & 4.6V Post Boot
VCC (Pin 5) >> LED 3 (Pin 6) = 10V Powering On & 4.0V Post Boot
VCC (Pin 5) >> LED 4 (Pin 7) = 63V Powering On & 4.0V Post Boot

My Digital Multimeter is very basic, & the Voltage readings when powering up were flashed for a split second, before calming down to the post boot readings....

LED 3 had to be attempted many times due to not giving any reading at all when powering up; so she seems very suspect.

I also know that LED 2 gave a 72V reading on one occasion.....

Thoughts?

you can try slide out the wire of this pin out from the sockets, be sure to cover it with type so didn't make contact with chassis then turn on the tv hope the reset will turn on so you can use the tv for awhile.

[Diah]

Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

backlight issue. need to take screen apart to start repair

[Eggbert43]

Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

VCC (Pin 1) >> LED 1 (Pin 2) = 37V Powering On & 4.0V Post Boot
VCC (Pin 1) >> LED 2 (Pin 3) = 65V Powering On & 4.6V Post Boot
VCC (Pin 5) >> LED 3 (Pin 6) = 10V Powering On & 4.0V Post Boot
VCC (Pin 5) >> LED 4 (Pin 7) = 63V Powering On & 4.0V Post Boot

My Digital Multimeter is very basic, & the Voltage readings when powering up were flashed for a split second, before calming down to the post boot readings....

LED 3 had to be attempted many times due to not giving any reading at all when powering up; so she seems very suspect.

I also know that LED 2 gave a 72V reading on one occasion.....

Thoughts?

[Diah]

Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

Thanks Diah, I really appreciate your help!

I just did as suggested, but quickly removing & plugging in the big connector on the Inverter Board did not bring the backlight back on

you need to read he voltage as following on the led socket we talked on before.
put yours digital meter on DC 200V
you have on the socket
pin 1 VCC and then led-1 /led-2 ( put the meter red probe on the VCC and the black on led-1 then turn on the tv record the voltage you get when tv displaying splash screen and with out.. do the same to the led-2 )

same way you do for the another group VCC pin 5 and led -1/led-2
all test should be when you turn on the set, post here here your reading with label
VCC pin 1 ----led -1 pin 2=
VCC pin 1 ----led -2 pin 3=

VCC pin 5 ----led -3 pin 6=
VCC pin 5 ----led -4 pin 7=

[Eggbert43]

Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

Thanks Diah, I really appreciate your help!

I just did as suggested, but quickly removing & plugging in the big connector on the Inverter Board did not bring the backlight back on

[Diah]

Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

An interesting development which I should've noticed earlier, is that there is a faint image on the screen when I hold a torch up to it & I can navigate the menus etc

this what i first expected there are error at the fault description. this why i asked you if red led come on just power it on again with remote.

now do this,
put back the socket of the led back. and turn on the set.. when the screen turn black just unplug the socket on the inverter boards ( 24V supply , the big one ) and plug it in again fast. the led backlight will come on again.. this tell us you have led backlight issue need to repair.

[Eggbert43]

Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

Thanks mate, an LED fault sounds bad, costly, difficult to remedy....

Is the LED Connector the one I disconnected for diagnosis/testing purposes just now; the one I circled in my most recent attachment?

[dick_barton]

Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

If the backlights flash and then go off and with or without them connected you can navigate the menu on the screen then you probably have a led(s) or led connector fault.

Also with the led connector in place if the backlights flash you should see the voltage peak at switch-on if you measure the led connector pin voltage to chassis.
Repeat the measuement for each pin with the set being switched on out of standdy.

[Eggbert43]

Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

Powering up with that connector disconnected results in the exact same behaviour/symptoms, except the splash screen doesn't flash on for a split second.

An interesting development which I should've noticed earlier, is that there is a faint image on the screen when I hold a torch up to it & I can navigate the menus etc

I should've noticed this earlier, because I can navigate the menus with a torch regardless of whether or not the LED Backlight connector is plugged in or not.

Most of all, I now know that the TV isn't turning off & returning to standby.
The redlight disappears once the TV has booted, & only reappears as a solid red if I press the power button.
I apologise for originally miscommunicating the symptoms; for some reason I assumed the TV was switching off.

I hope this tells you more than it did me, because I'm not even sure if any of this is good or bad news; in terms of difficulty to fix, or at least diagnose further?

[Eggbert43]

Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

Ok brilliant, will test & report back shortly....

[Diah]

Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

I have attached a close-up image of the connector on the top left board; the connector is circled in red.....

yes this socket, its LED backlight which it goes to the led behind the screen.

[Eggbert43]

Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

Now I'm thinking you might be talking about the White Socket to the far left of the top left board in Photo 02. The chord travels up from this one to the top of the TV somewhere?

I have attached a close-up image of the connector on the top left board; the connector is circled in red..... I am not even sure if this board is the Backlight Driver; please enlighten me

[Eggbert43]

Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

Actually, when I say the bottom of Photo 01, I mean the top of Photo 01; rotation wasn't preserved.....

[Eggbert43]

Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

Thank you so much for your input Diah...

I just need to clarify which one the Backlight Driver is; is it the board down the bottom of Photo 01, or the board at the top left of Photo 02?

There is a white chord going from a white plug/socket on the bottom board to a white plug/socket on the top left board; I suspect you might be telling me to unplug it from the top left board???

Please see the attached photos

[Diah]

Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

all pins normal 12v and 24v. you wrote, it power on displaying splash screen then screen go black then back to red standby.

do the following, disconnect the LED backlight socket from the backlight driver ( white color socket ) then power on the tv... just remark if it stay on or it back to stand by... if it back to standby just power it again with remote control..

[Eggbert43]

Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

Actually, it probably is normal; two of the three +24V pins on CN203 seem to be connected/soldered together also..., mmmm.....

I'll come back with Voltage readings from these connectors in the next day or so......