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  • BruceGilbert
    Member
    • Apr 2020
    • 31
    • Canada

    #1

    Sharpe LCD TV LC60E77UN

    Hello Everyone
    Just so very new to this forum and in need of some help or perhaps a suggestion as to where I might go. The above TV has a power supply board DPS 343AP A. When I investigated the power supply board I didn't have the 5 volt standby voltage. upon further investigation I noticed that IC7908 the top has blown off of the IC. I am in search of either a picture of the board that would be clear enough to identify the IC or perhaps someone might know of another way of identifying the IC. I am not able to buy the repair kit which I believe has the IC in it. A replacement board is not even available. Perhaps someone can explain how I might be able to get a schematic of the board or component list. I am all ears and look forward to any comments or advice. Like I said I am new to the forum but very anxious to learn.
    Thank You
    Bruce
  • dick_barton
    Badcaps Legend
    • Aug 2015
    • 6642
    • Wales

    #2
    Re: Sharpe LCD TV LC60E77UN

    I couldn't find a picture in which you could read the chip part number but did you mean IC7905 on the power board,
    Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Sharpe LCD TV LC60E77UN

      Must be IC7905.
      Per shopjimmy pictures, it looks like TNY264PN by Power Integration.
      Some one on the web sell the IC and the 2.2 Ohms resistor R7914 that will be blown too when the IC7905 blew up.
      TNY spec:
      Here is the link to one of the kit: https://www.yoycart.com/Product/566813822866/
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      • BruceGilbert
        Member
        • Apr 2020
        • 31
        • Canada

        #4
        Re: Sharpe LCD TV LC60E77UN

        Thank you so much everyone that has responded that is exactly the IC that I was referring to. Also the comments made regarding the resistor this must be a known problem. Any additional information would be greatly appreciated.
        Thanks Again everyone

        Bruce

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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Sharpe LCD TV LC60E77UN

          TNY IC does blow up a lot, it is used in many power supplies. The 2.2 Ohms fusible resistor is there to stop further damage when the TNY shorted out.
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • BruceGilbert
            Member
            • Apr 2020
            • 31
            • Canada

            #6
            Re: Sharpe LCD TV LC60E77UN

            Finally got IC7905 replaced and the fusible resistor R7914. Tried to power up the board with still no success. Here are some of my findings.
            I still do not get any standby 5 volts on the low side of the power supply. It seems that I am getting 28 volts AC all over the low side of the power supply board.
            Does anyone know where I can find the source of the 5 volt standby voltage on this power supply board? This is a DPS 343AP-A. Any suggestions as to where I should look would be greatly appreciated.

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            • dick_barton
              Badcaps Legend
              • Aug 2015
              • 6642
              • Wales

              #7
              Re: Sharpe LCD TV LC60E77UN

              What dc voltage do you have between the legs of C7830.
              Do you have 5.8V dc on the BP pin of the Tny IC with the negative meter lead connected to the negative leg of C7830. Be carefull when measuring that the prove does not slip.
              Last edited by dick_barton; 12-16-2020, 06:28 AM.
              Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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              • BruceGilbert
                Member
                • Apr 2020
                • 31
                • Canada

                #8
                Re: Sharpe LCD TV LC60E77UN

                Hi Dick
                Thankyou so much for the advice I will check this afternoon. I do know that with the board plugged in on my bench. When I probe between the center securing screw for the board that has a terminal lug on it and the legs of the TNY IC I read 30 volts AC on all the legs with the exception of one which reads 60 volts. However I will do the test you are recommending and get back to you. Thanks again

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                • dick_barton
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Aug 2015
                  • 6642
                  • Wales

                  #9
                  Re: Sharpe LCD TV LC60E77UN

                  When taking measurements on the high voltage supply side of the power supply (HOT) you do not use the chassis as ground which is why you are getting AC readings. All measurement on the HOT side are always referenced to HOT ground which in this case, the negative leg of C7830 is a suitable point.

                  Measurements on the COLD side are referenced to chassis. COLD is the secondary supplies side of the power supply.
                  Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                  • BruceGilbert
                    Member
                    • Apr 2020
                    • 31
                    • Canada

                    #10
                    Re: Sharpe LCD TV LC60E77UN

                    Hi Dick
                    I was able to take the voltage measurements that you asked. Between the legs of C7830 I read 163.5 volts DC and between the negative leg of C7830 and BP of IC 7905 I read 5.95 volts DC.
                    With regards to the above comment I should read standby voltage between the pin on the connector and the chassis ground correct. I do not believe I am seeing that.

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                    • dick_barton
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Aug 2015
                      • 6642
                      • Wales

                      #11
                      Re: Sharpe LCD TV LC60E77UN

                      The 5.95V measurement for BP is what was to be expected so I think that IC is probably working OK. It's the 5.8V regulated output derived from the supply at the drain and charges up the capacitor connected to BP pin.

                      Without the circuit diagram I can only guess that the 163.5V means that the PFC circuit is not operational.

                      Are you seeing any dc voltage on at the pins of PL, PD, LA1
                      Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                      • BruceGilbert
                        Member
                        • Apr 2020
                        • 31
                        • Canada

                        #12
                        Re: Sharpe LCD TV LC60E77UN

                        Thanks I will look later today possibly Snow storm here in Nova Scotia today. Not completely sure what these letters mean. PL,PD and LA1 but will do some digging.
                        Thanks again.

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                        • dick_barton
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Aug 2015
                          • 6642
                          • Wales

                          #13
                          Re: Sharpe LCD TV LC60E77UN

                          That's why photo's of your circuit boards are helpful when posted.
                          I'm not 100% certain but if this is your power supply then PL, PD and LA1 are the connector names.
                          Photo from Shopjimmy
                          Attached Files
                          Last edited by dick_barton; 12-17-2020, 07:34 AM.
                          Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                          • BruceGilbert
                            Member
                            • Apr 2020
                            • 31
                            • Canada

                            #14
                            Re: Sharpe LCD TV LC60E77UN

                            Dick you are sharp yes this is my board.
                            With the power to the board and I use the chassis connection point as my ground and I measure any of these pins I do not see any voltages. Perhaps I am not connected correctly to see the voltage.
                            For your information I did find the 5.93 volts on pin one of IC7905 I believe. These are I believe opto couplers PC123. There are 6 of these between the hi and low side of the board and only IC7905 is upside down it is the very top one by the connectors you are referring to. I think I should see the 5.93 volts on pin 2 as well and if this coupler is not working would this prevent the 5.93 volts from getting to the low side of the board and on to the connector. Hope this makes some sense to you.

                            Bruce

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                            • dick_barton
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Aug 2015
                              • 6642
                              • Wales

                              #15
                              Re: Sharpe LCD TV LC60E77UN

                              The board is sitting on my bench and connected to 115 volts AC. I can measure the high side as you have pointed out. The low side I am connecting one lead to the mounting connector with the metal connector and the other lead to any of the pins on the recommended connectors and I don't see a voltage. On IC7905 the first of 6 opto couplers which is mounted opposite to the remaining 5 on pin 1 I do see 5.93 volts which is on the high side of the board. Should I not see this voltage on pins 3 and 4 of this opto coupler?
                              To check the voltage on the LOW side ie secondary, you can generally connect the black meter lead to the metal chassis (back of led panel) or use any of the GND (ground) pins of the output connectors. The voltages will be DC set set your meter accordingly.

                              Can you post sharp well focused pictures since I have no information on your power supply other than what you posted. For example I can see the opto's in the picture I posted but have no Idea which one is which.
                              Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                              • dick_barton
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Aug 2015
                                • 6642
                                • Wales

                                #16
                                Re: Sharpe LCD TV LC60E77UN

                                IC7905 is a PFC control IC and not an opto-coupler.

                                What dc voltage do you have on pin 4 (EN/UV) of IC7905 with the black meter lead connected to negative leg of capacitor C7830.


                                Repair kit looks quite comprehensive.
                                https://www.shopjimmy.com/sharp-rden...ly-repair-kit/

                                Here is the information on IC7905
                                Attached Files
                                Last edited by dick_barton; 12-18-2020, 08:21 AM.
                                Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                                • dick_barton
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Aug 2015
                                  • 6642
                                  • Wales

                                  #17
                                  Re: Sharpe LCD TV LC60E77UN

                                  Carry out the same tests as done in this thread which is the same power supply as yours
                                  https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...t=24435&page=2
                                  Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                                  • BruceGilbert
                                    Member
                                    • Apr 2020
                                    • 31
                                    • Canada

                                    #18
                                    Re: Sharpe LCD TV LC60E77UN

                                    Thank you once again for all your help. Thank goodness that you have patience with us armatures. I will take some pictures and carefully review the information provided and get back to you.
                                    Last edited by BruceGilbert; 12-18-2020, 11:56 AM.

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                                    • BruceGilbert
                                      Member
                                      • Apr 2020
                                      • 31
                                      • Canada

                                      #19
                                      Re: Sharpe LCD TV LC60E77UN

                                      I now have some pictures which I hope will help.











                                      Attached Files

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                                      • BruceGilbert
                                        Member
                                        • Apr 2020
                                        • 31
                                        • Canada

                                        #20
                                        Re: Sharpe LCD TV LC60E77UN

                                        Today I hope I will be able to do some voltage measurements.

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