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  • dick_barton
    Badcaps Legend
    • Aug 2015
    • 6642
    • Wales

    #21
    Re: Philips 37PFL4606 No Power

    The 9.8V is just too low and I can't see why. The +5V SB is working so IC905 must be working. Can you measure the voltage across ZD908 and test capacitor C946
    Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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    • trunks81
      Badcaps Veteran
      • May 2020
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      • Nederland

      #22
      Re: Philips 37PFL4606 No Power

      Hello

      The voltage across ZD908 is 7V, and the cap C946 measure in circuit 48uf and also outside of it.

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      • dick_barton
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        • Aug 2015
        • 6642
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        #23
        Re: Philips 37PFL4606 No Power

        ZD908 is an 18V zener so with voltage across it appears to be OK.
        Can you measure R959. Using meter in diode mode check across D916 in both directions.
        Just out of curiosity can you also measure the resistance between the 12V supply pin and chassis and also the 24V pin and chassis of the connector.
        Last edited by dick_barton; 06-28-2020, 12:27 PM.
        Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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        • trunks81
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          • May 2020
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          #24
          Re: Philips 37PFL4606 No Power

          R959 is 4,7ohm both ways,
          D916 is working measure 0.5V and reverse OL
          12V to ground is 1Kohm
          24V to ground is 2.4Kohm
          Last edited by trunks81; 06-28-2020, 12:39 PM.

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          • dick_barton
            Badcaps Legend
            • Aug 2015
            • 6642
            • Wales

            #25
            Re: Philips 37PFL4606 No Power

            There doesn't appear to be an issue on the secondary side of the 12V and 24V supply.
            R959 and D916 check out OK.
            Need to think about what else could be causing the problem but I'm fairly sure the 9.8V is the issue.
            Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #26
              Re: Philips 37PFL4606 No Power

              What Voltage do you have when measure at the two legs of the cap C946 when 1K resistor is in place and not in place?
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

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              • trunks81
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                • May 2020
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                #27
                Re: Philips 37PFL4606 No Power

                When in place iam getting 9.8V and removed 8.1V

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #28
                  Re: Philips 37PFL4606 No Power

                  Originally posted by trunks81
                  When in place iam getting 9.8V and removed 8.1V
                  OK, check the resistance between the two legs of C946 and C922, the meter should show very low resistance at the beginning then it should be in K Ohms range after 10 seconds or so.
                  Also check the resistance between the positive leg of C946 and C922 in both directions of the probes.
                  Last edited by budm; 06-29-2020, 01:06 AM.
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • trunks81
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                    • May 2020
                    • 265
                    • Nederland

                    #29
                    Re: Philips 37PFL4606 No Power

                    Hello


                    I do not see that the resistance is low in the beginning
                    C946 = 7.14Kohm, and reverse 56.2Mohm
                    C922 = 8.2kohm, and reverse 104kohm

                    Between the positive legs of C946 and C922 51Mohm and reverse 12kohm
                    Last edited by trunks81; 06-29-2020, 03:04 AM.

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                    • dick_barton
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                      • Aug 2015
                      • 6642
                      • Wales

                      #30
                      Re: Philips 37PFL4606 No Power

                      .
                      Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                      • trunks81
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • May 2020
                        • 265
                        • Nederland

                        #31
                        Re: Philips 37PFL4606 No Power

                        What do you mean ?

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                        • trunks81
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                          • May 2020
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                          #32
                          Re: Philips 37PFL4606 No Power

                          C920 measure 8kohm and reverse 100kohm

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                          • trunks81
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                            • May 2020
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                            #33
                            Re: Philips 37PFL4606 No Power

                            ive have an other board from an 47 inch model.. which has an short in it so the fuse keeps blowing C920 and C915,C922 all measure 270ohm

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                            • dick_barton
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Aug 2015
                              • 6642
                              • Wales

                              #34
                              Re: Philips 37PFL4606 No Power

                              ive have an other board from an 47 inch model.. which has an short in it so the fuse keeps blowing C920 and C915,C922 all measure 270ohm
                              It would be better to post this as a new thread otherwise it will become confusing.
                              Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                              • trunks81
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • May 2020
                                • 265
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                                #35
                                Re: Philips 37PFL4606 No Power

                                oke sorry.. any other ideas to get this one running?

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                                • dick_barton
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Aug 2015
                                  • 6642
                                  • Wales

                                  #36
                                  Re: Philips 37PFL4606 No Power

                                  At the moment I don't but others may well step in to assist.
                                  Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                                  • trunks81
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • May 2020
                                    • 265
                                    • Nederland

                                    #37
                                    Re: Philips 37PFL4606 No Power

                                    Tommorrow i have an working power supply, Hopefully we can reverse engineer it back ti the fault in the other one's

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                                    • budm
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2010
                                      • 40746
                                      • USA

                                      #38
                                      Re: Philips 37PFL4606 No Power

                                      Originally posted by trunks81
                                      Hello


                                      I do not see that the resistance is low in the beginning
                                      C946 = 7.14Kohm, and reverse 56.2Mohm
                                      C922 = 8.2kohm, and reverse 104kohm

                                      Between the positive legs of C946 and C922 51Mohm and reverse 12kohm
                                      OK, they look OK, I was looking to see why you only getting 9V, I need to look further in the circuit.
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                      • budm
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 40746
                                        • USA

                                        #39
                                        Re: Philips 37PFL4606 No Power

                                        Originally posted by trunks81
                                        Hello

                                        Between the legs of C907 iam getting 309VDC,

                                        Edit is allready replaced D901,Q902 and R919 because board whas doing notting in the begining
                                        I need clarification about this.
                                        Did you have 5V Standby before replacing those part in the PFC circuit? Were those parts bad?
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                        • trunks81
                                          Badcaps Veteran
                                          • May 2020
                                          • 265
                                          • Nederland

                                          #40
                                          Re: Philips 37PFL4606 No Power

                                          Those parts were bad. so needed to replace them.. did not measure 5V because fuse kept blowing.

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