Panasonic TX-32LM70 power supply issue

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  • Dannyx
    CertifiedAxhole
    • Aug 2016
    • 3912
    • Romania

    #1

    Panasonic TX-32LM70 power supply issue

    Good day folks. I'm having a bit of trouble with this Panasonic telly that doesn't want to be fixed It has a hard time starting, requiring multiple attempts before finally staying on and sometimes displays a mess of lines and colors. I thought it was the main board, but then noticed the backlight was flickering too and the 24v and 12v rails were jumping around like crazy, so it's a PSU issue I reckon.

    Its 12v standby rail keeps dying on me, despite the 24v rail being fine. Have a look at the schematic on page 37. On the right side of the page we have the secondary which interests us. D830 is the standby diode. With no load, I get 15v on that rail, which is a bit high to begin with, but if I load the rail, it dies completely, as if triggering overcurrent. If I remove the load, it springs back to life. Already changed the two caps on that rail and it's not it...I'm not sure what to check next. The strange thing is that the 24v rail is fine: if I load that one, no problem: I get steady voltage, but as soon as I apply any load to the 12v one, nothing....I assume TL431 towards the bottom is fine, since there is regulation. There's a feedback issue somewhere, but I can't find it. That mess of components there is where I believe the issue is. Any ideas ? Tests were done with PSU removed with nothing connected to it, so by "load" I refer to a lightbulb. Cheers and thanks.
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  • nomoresonys
    Badcaps Legend
    • Jan 2013
    • 12206
    • U.S.

    #2
    Re: Panasonic TX-32LM70 power supply issue

    Schematic?
    Quit because THIS SITE LETS A ROGUE MEMBER TYPE ANY GARBAGE HE PLEASES AND THE POWERS THAT BE NEVER DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT SO HE NEVER QUITS. THEN YOU GET A PENALTY FOR RESPONDING TO HIS ATTACKS. BEEN GOING ON FOR WAY TOO LONG. DONE SUPPORTING A SITE THAT ALLOWS THIS BS.

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    • Dannyx
      CertifiedAxhole
      • Aug 2016
      • 3912
      • Romania

      #3
      Re: Panasonic TX-32LM70 power supply issue

      Yeah, fail...
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      • dick_barton
        Badcaps Legend
        • Aug 2015
        • 6643
        • Wales

        #4
        Re: Panasonic TX-32LM70 power supply issue

        With the 24V being solid and you've changed the two electrolytic's then the only things I can think of is
        1. Faulty diode (D830)
        2. The zener (D839)
        3. Highly improbably, but have you checked the resistance of F830.
        Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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        • CapLeaker
          Leaking Member
          • Dec 2014
          • 8219
          • Canada

          #5
          Re: Panasonic TX-32LM70 power supply issue

          or L830 has a cold solder joint. What does the converted AC do (also before the D830 diode)?
          Last edited by CapLeaker; 05-17-2018, 04:55 PM.

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          • Dannyx
            CertifiedAxhole
            • Aug 2016
            • 3912
            • Romania

            #6
            Re: Panasonic TX-32LM70 power supply issue

            Originally posted by CapLeaker
            What does the converted AC do (also before the D830 diode)?
            No scope to probe that I'm afraid.
            I was thinking of the diode too, but there's another thing I noticed: the last pin on that connector: IRD_PSU_ON/NOT_STBY...I left it floating all this time. I believe it should be pulled high to enable the PSU...strange, considering I get 24v at all times and the words "NOT STAND BY" would imply it does the opposite and disables the Standby.
            What I'll try is power the two rails with two power bricks and see if the TV runs steadily. Another thing I thought of is a faulty inverter, though that doesn't explain why I also get funny colors sometimes and the TV barely stays on. It should've immediately switched off, as Panasonic has that PANEL_SOS pin on the inverter (see P3 in the schematic which is the connector on the inverter) which signals this and shuts down. Not sure I have a 24v adapter with enough amps to push the inverter AND the main board....
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            • Dannyx
              CertifiedAxhole
              • Aug 2016
              • 3912
              • Romania

              #7
              Re: Panasonic TX-32LM70 power supply issue

              It's an inverter issue: I thought about it and decided to bypass the protection of the inverter IC BD9886FV by shorting pin 22 to GND and now the TV comes on, but looks like THIS......so it's trash really.
              I can imagine that those fluctuations on the power rails were caused by the inverter powering on and off as it failed to ignite some of the lamps...good to know in the future.
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