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  • adrianed
    New Member
    • May 2018
    • 6
    • Australia

    #1

    Ex Serviceman Needs Help

    After 15 years retired and never having serviced a flat screen Tv I am hoping someone might help me to repair my own TV
    Its a Samsung La40C 550 Jif
    The power board is well known Code BN44-00340B
    The Tv has sound and the picture can be seen with a flashlight but the backlights are off
    The voltage on the two big yellow caps is 322volts across its two leads, same for each of them which I think is probably a bit low
    The voltage doesn't change if I unplug the Tv main board
    No appearance of hot spots anywhere on the board
    I would buy another power board if I could be sure that the problem is not on the next board that supplies power to the lights
    Any suggestions would be welcome
    Adrian
  • Gdog215
    Member
    • Mar 2018
    • 29
    • Usa

    #2
    Re: Ex Serviceman Needs Help

    Try unplugging the main board from the power board, than power on the tv. See if the backlights come on first than you will know if your power board is good and main board Is bad. You should get a lighted blue screen. Try that first.
    You live and you learn right?

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    • R_J
      Badcaps Legend
      • Jun 2012
      • 9535
      • Canada

      #3
      Re: Ex Serviceman Needs Help

      Is the fuse FI801s ok? what voltage do you get on the fuse (use hot ground)? Have a close look at CI802 cap. and either check it or look to see if is bulged. also check for poor connections on any fets etc. mounted to heat sinks.
      Attached Files
      Last edited by R_J; 05-07-2018, 09:00 PM.

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      • maxvalutech
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Dec 2014
        • 804
        • australia

        #4
        Re: Ex Serviceman Needs Help

        The LA40 series from memory 2008/9 ?? The main connector will have pson and blon marked ?? As you have a picture you need to see if blon is being generated by mainboard. To do this you disconnect main and jumper the pson pin to earth and the blon pin to a 5v pin. If backlights come on then mainboard problem if not PSU circuit problem. All from memory so others may correct me. Use low value resistors if you have them for jumpers.
        Last edited by maxvalutech; 05-08-2018, 01:24 AM.

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        • maxvalutech
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Dec 2014
          • 804
          • australia

          #5
          Re: Ex Serviceman Needs Help

          I see R_J has supplied a circuit and the connector has a PWM pin so may need to jumper that to 5v as well as the others.

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          • dick_barton
            Badcaps Legend
            • Aug 2015
            • 6642
            • Wales

            #6
            Re: Ex Serviceman Needs Help

            Your PFC voltage does seem low considering the capacitors CP801, CP803 are rated at 450V. I would have though it to be more towards 400V
            Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Ex Serviceman Needs Help

              It looks like PFC circuit is not running, the 323V on the cap is normal for 230VAC input Australia.
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • dick_barton
                Badcaps Legend
                • Aug 2015
                • 6642
                • Wales

                #8
                Re: Ex Serviceman Needs Help

                What voltage do you have between pins 6 & 8 of ICP801
                Attached Files
                Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                • adrianed
                  New Member
                  • May 2018
                  • 6
                  • Australia

                  #9
                  Re: Ex Serviceman Needs Help

                  Hi Folks,
                  Thankyou all for the suggestions about repairing my TV
                  I looked very closely at the circuit board and found what looked like dry joints
                  I heated them up with the soldering iron to remelt the joints and after that the TV came on working again like magic
                  All the good suggestions prompted me to take time and look it over and it paid off
                  Thankyou all again
                  Adrianed

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                  • dick_barton
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Aug 2015
                    • 6642
                    • Wales

                    #10
                    Re: Ex Serviceman Needs Help

                    What voltage do you now have on a working set between pins 6 & 8 of ICP801 and also what PFC voltage do you have at FI801S. This information would be useful for others to know should they have a similar fault.
                    Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                    • adrianed
                      New Member
                      • May 2018
                      • 6
                      • Australia

                      #11
                      Re: Ex Serviceman Needs Help

                      Dick there is no ICP801 on this board
                      There is only one IC and the number is ICM801
                      There are only six pins and the pin no's are not shown

                      Adrianed
                      Attached Files

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Ex Serviceman Needs Help

                        There are many SMD parts on the bottom side of the board, look there.
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • adrianed
                          New Member
                          • May 2018
                          • 6
                          • Australia

                          #13
                          Re: Ex Serviceman Needs Help

                          I did overlook that, yes there are quite few components underneath the board, I avoided them when I was retouching the solder joints, I had thought that if any of these very small components require changing I could not do it with the iron I have and I would almost require a microscope
                          It will take me some time to take the board out again being as I have put it all together for using and let my daughter have it
                          I will get the voltage for you though in due course
                          Adrianed

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: Ex Serviceman Needs Help

                            BTW, you will be making the Voltage in the HOT DEALY side of the circuit so you should at least plug the TV into GFCI outlet.
                            The GND for your meter will be the negative leg of the main DC filter cap, you will have to power up the board and have the board flipped over, so do not touch anything with your hands or body, use insulation sheet to lay the board on so nothing on the board will touch the chassis.
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • adrianed
                              New Member
                              • May 2018
                              • 6
                              • Australia

                              #15
                              Re: Ex Serviceman Needs Help

                              Thanks budm
                              Adrianed

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