Samsung LN40D550K1FXZA Backlight Problem

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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #21
    Re: Samsung LN40D550K1FXZA Backlight Problem

    Originally posted by classicmac
    I removed CI818 and tested it and was getting ~.47-.5. It should be a .47uf capacitor right? I'm attaching a picture for reference.
    That cap is Polypropylene type.
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • nomoresonys
      Badcaps Legend
      • Jan 2013
      • 12075
      • U.S.

      #22
      Re: Samsung LN40D550K1FXZA Backlight Problem

      This one LD-4088 is also one of the ones on shopjimmy list. https://www.ebay.com/itm/APEX-LD-408...MAAOSw4GVZ4OPf

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      • nomoresonys
        Badcaps Legend
        • Jan 2013
        • 12075
        • U.S.

        #23
        Re: Samsung LN40D550K1FXZA Backlight Problem

        Not sure, maybe the info. shopjimmy has there in post #18 is wrong?

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        • nomoresonys
          Badcaps Legend
          • Jan 2013
          • 12075
          • U.S.

          #24
          Re: Samsung LN40D550K1FXZA Backlight Problem

          Your inverter board probably looks like this. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-40-...UAAOSwMgdXxdUd

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          • nomoresonys
            Badcaps Legend
            • Jan 2013
            • 12075
            • U.S.

            #25
            Re: Samsung LN40D550K1FXZA Backlight Problem

            Would it be easier for him to verify the PFC circuit if the inverter board was not connected to the powersupply?

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            • nomoresonys
              Badcaps Legend
              • Jan 2013
              • 12075
              • U.S.

              #26
              Re: Samsung LN40D550K1FXZA Backlight Problem

              Originally posted by classicmac
              I'm a little new to this. Is there something specific I should test on the inverter board?
              Inverter board testing, couldn't find your exact model so might not be very useful.
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE6K4xBVweA
              Last edited by nomoresonys; 05-01-2018, 10:58 PM.

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              • classicmac
                Member
                • Aug 2013
                • 13
                • USA

                #27
                Re: Samsung LN40D550K1FXZA Backlight Problem

                Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I measured voltage at the capacitors again and it doesn't look like it goes over 360-380v. Is that an acceptable voltage? They only reach that voltage for a split second then the voltage drops down again.

                I'm attaching a picture of the inverter board. Any suggestions on what to check next?
                Attached Files

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                • dick_barton
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Aug 2015
                  • 6642
                  • Wales

                  #28
                  Re: Samsung LN40D550K1FXZA Backlight Problem

                  I tried disconnected the main board to test the backlight as suggested in the troubleshooting manual attached to post https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?p=792496. I get the same behavior when I connect power where the backlight just flickers on then turns off again. I'm attaching a picture of the power supply board. I don't see any visibly failed components or bulging/leaking capacitors.
                  If you carry out this check again can you measure the voltage across the large capacitor using your meter probes between the two legs of the capacitor and is is steady?
                  Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #29
                    Re: Samsung LN40D550K1FXZA Backlight Problem

                    Remove the white fuse with purple stripe right next to the main filter cap and then turn the TV on and see if the Voltage on the main cap stays on 380V or so without dropping back down to 160VDC.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • classicmac
                      Member
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 13
                      • USA

                      #30
                      Re: Samsung LN40D550K1FXZA Backlight Problem

                      I removed the fuse and powered the television on and the voltage is still at 160V. It is steady at that voltage. Anything else I should check?

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #31
                        Re: Samsung LN40D550K1FXZA Backlight Problem

                        OK, I see why will get only 160VDC on the main caps after tracing out the fuse connection, that fuse is for the the STBY power supply and the Inverter Transformer driver circuit, I was trying to isolate the Inverter transformer driver circuits from the rest of the power supply to see if the PFC Voltage will stay up at 380vdc or not.
                        Right now we may have PFC circuit problem, or Inverter circuit is drawing too much current and cause the PFC to shutdown, or the Inverter circuit detect error so it sends the error signal to shutdown the circuit..
                        So have all the boards connected back in place then put red probe of DC V meter on Pin 12 (LD = Lamp Detect)) of connector CNI801, Black probe on Pin 8 (GND) then Turn on the TV to see what you GET. Do the same on pin 9 (OVP = Over Voltage Protection).
                        Last edited by budm; 05-02-2018, 01:59 PM.
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • classicmac
                          Member
                          • Aug 2013
                          • 13
                          • USA

                          #32
                          Re: Samsung LN40D550K1FXZA Backlight Problem

                          I am getting 11.83VDC on pin 12 and 0VDC on pin 9.

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #33
                            Re: Samsung LN40D550K1FXZA Backlight Problem

                            LD is OK, I not sure the pin 9 OVP <1V = bad OR = good
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • classicmac
                              Member
                              • Aug 2013
                              • 13
                              • USA

                              #34
                              Re: Samsung LN40D550K1FXZA Backlight Problem

                              I just did another test. When I plug the television in I see pin 9 briefly jump to .4VDC before dropping to 0.

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                              • classicmac
                                Member
                                • Aug 2013
                                • 13
                                • USA

                                #35
                                Re: Samsung LN40D550K1FXZA Backlight Problem

                                Does anyone have any ideas on how to isolate the problem to a component or board? Should I try replacing ICP801 as suggested in the other thread?

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                                • classicmac
                                  Member
                                  • Aug 2013
                                  • 13
                                  • USA

                                  #36
                                  Re: Samsung LN40D550K1FXZA Backlight Problem

                                  Thanks so much for the link to your other thread neilc6! I replaced ICP801 and the TV is back to life. Thanks everyone for your help and suggestions.

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