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  • fcisolutions
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    • Jan 2017
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    KDL-55NX720 Pwr Led Blinks 5 times

    From another post where this same Sony model was blinking 4 times I found this:
    CoppellTVRepair wrote:
    Haven't figured it out yet, partially because of Sony's idiotic design where if anything is disconnected (or failed) the whole TV shuts down ...

    Looking up the 5 blink code says I have a bad panel. But what is frustrating is if I disconnect everything related to the panel and I still get the same 5 blinks.

    Voltage readings:
    1 - 3.25v - Power_ON ----------2 - 0v - NC
    3 - 3.30v - PFC_ON ------------ 4 - 0v - NC
    5 - 0v - NC ---------------------- 6 - 1.67v - BL_ERR
    7 - 2.75v - AC_OFF_DET ------- 8 - 0v - T-CON_ON
    9 - 0v - GND ------------------- 10 - 3.3v - STBY3.3V
    11 - 0v - AU_GND ------------- 12 - 10.7v - AU_12V
    13 - 0v - AU_GND ------------- 14 - 10.7v - AU_12V
    15 - 0v - GND ----------------- 16 - 10.7v - REG_12V
    17 - 0v - GND ----------------- 18 - 10.7v - REG_12V
    19 - 0v - GND ----------------- 20 - 10.7v - BOR_ASU_12V
    21 - 0v - GND ----------------- 22 - 10.7v - BOR_ASU_12V
    23 - 0v - GND ----------------- 24 - 10.7v - TCON_VCC_12V
    25 - 0v - GND ----------------- 26 - 10.7v - TCON_VCC_12V
    27 - 0v - GND ----------------- 28 - 10.7v - TCON_VCC_12V
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  • dskall
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    #2
    Re: KDL-55NX720 Pwr Led Blinks 5 times

    If you unplug the 12v stuff do you still get 10.7v?
    I assume no responsibility for any stupid suggestions I might post.

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    • fcisolutions
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      #3
      Re: KDL-55NX720 Pwr Led Blinks 5 times

      The main board has been isolated, forced power supply on, by jumpering standby to power_on and the 12V rail came to 12.75V.

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      • dskall
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        #4
        Re: KDL-55NX720 Pwr Led Blinks 5 times

        Possible bad cap on 12v supply. Probable short dragging down voltage
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        • fcisolutions
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          #5
          Re: KDL-55NX720 Pwr Led Blinks 5 times

          Originally posted by dskall
          Possible bad cap on 12v supply. Probable short dragging down voltage
          Are you thinking the bad cap is on the main? Remember the power supply puts out the right voltages when the main is disconnected/isolated. Do you think replacing the main board is our best bet?

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          • budm
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            • Feb 2010
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            #6
            Re: KDL-55NX720 Pwr Led Blinks 5 times

            You can try using 1A load on that 12V output to see if it can even handle 1A load to start with. The PFC Boosted Voltage also staying at around 380~400V range?
            Last edited by budm; 07-13-2017, 02:39 PM.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

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            • fcisolutions
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              Re: KDL-55NX720 Pwr Led Blinks 5 times

              Originally posted by budm
              You can try using 1A load on that 12V output to see if it can even handle 1A load to start with. The PFC Boosted Voltage also staying at around 380~400V range?
              To use a 1A load would I put a 12ohm resister from 12v to ground?

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              • fcisolutions
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                Re: KDL-55NX720 Pwr Led Blinks 5 times

                Originally posted by budm
                You can try using 1A load on that 12V output to see if it can even handle 1A load to start with. The PFC Boosted Voltage also staying at around 380~400V range?
                And the PFC is 393v when I power the supply with a 1k resistor (eliminating the main).

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                • dick_barton
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                  • Aug 2015
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                  #9
                  Re: KDL-55NX720 Pwr Led Blinks 5 times

                  Originally posted by fcisolutions
                  To use a 1A load would I put a 12ohm resister from 12v to ground?
                  12V, 12W car bulb would do the job
                  Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                  • budm
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                    • Feb 2010
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                    #10
                    Re: KDL-55NX720 Pwr Led Blinks 5 times

                    Originally posted by dick_barton
                    12V, 12W car bulb would do the job
                    The cold resistance of the lamp may trip the over current circuit, the cold resistance of the lamp can be about 15 times lower than the hot resistance.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • fcisolutions
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                      #11
                      Re: KDL-55NX720 Pwr Led Blinks 5 times

                      Originally posted by budm
                      You can try using 1A load on that 12V output to see if it can even handle 1A load to start with. The PFC Boosted Voltage also staying at around 380~400V range?
                      The power supply (w/o main connected) is forced on via 1k resistor to standby voltage and then I wired a 12v, 1.3amp fan from the 12v rail to gound. The voltage dropped from 12.75 to 12.44 with the fan running at full speed. PFC is stable at 392v during this test.

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                      • dskall
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                        #12
                        Re: KDL-55NX720 Pwr Led Blinks 5 times

                        I would start disconnecting 12v loads one at a time till voltage comes up
                        I assume no responsibility for any stupid suggestions I might post.

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                        • fcisolutions
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                          Re: KDL-55NX720 Pwr Led Blinks 5 times

                          Originally posted by dskall
                          I would start disconnecting 12v loads one at a time till voltage comes up
                          With the main disconnected and everything else plugged up 12v is good. Going to try ordering a main board. Thanks for your help.

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                          • fcisolutions
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                            Re: KDL-55NX720 Pwr Led Blinks 5 times

                            Main board arrived and the voltages stabilized. But still no picture. The problem is, isolating seems to trigger the led to blink 5 times. For example, I connected just the main and I get the 5 blinks. So how is a tech suppose to troubleshoot?

                            Also I don't get the LEDs to light. There is a LED driver brd responsible to send the BL-ON turn on voltage to the secondary power board. Thanks Sony.

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                            • fcisolutions
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                              Re: KDL-55NX720 Pwr Led Blinks 5 times

                              I was able to test the leds and each string (there was 4) was pulling 30volts. So looks like leds are good.

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                              • nuala
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                                #16
                                Re: KDL-55NX720 Pwr Led Blinks 5 times

                                Service manual for 5 blinks is t-con error/panel ID NVM error. T-com control MT board.

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                                • fcisolutions
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                                  #17
                                  Re: KDL-55NX720 Pwr Led Blinks 5 times

                                  Yes that's right. But remember, I get 5 blinks whether I have just the main board connected or main, led driver or main, led driver, tcon or main, led driver, tcon, and panel.

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