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  • Hawk2112
    Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 31
    • Canada

    #1

    LG 50PG10 Sound No Picture.

    I have searched the forums and ran every test I found to no avail.

    All voltages are good. Test pattern results in black screen. Pulling the top/bottom YSUS produces nothing. I have tested every fuse etc I can find but there is no image on this thing.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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  • ReeceyBurger123
    Never Give Up !
    • May 2014
    • 7325
    • Britain

    #2
    Re: LG 50PG10 Sound No Picture.

    Remove top Ybuffer does bottom half of screen work ?
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    • Hawk2112
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      • Jun 2010
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      #3
      Re: LG 50PG10 Sound No Picture.

      No just a black screen.

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      • ReeceyBurger123
        Never Give Up !
        • May 2014
        • 7325
        • Britain

        #4
        Re: LG 50PG10 Sound No Picture.

        Right what voltages have you tested ? No point just telling us they are fine need to verify. Need Vsc, Vz, Yup etc. cheers.
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        • Hawk2112
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          • Jun 2010
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          #5
          Re: LG 50PG10 Sound No Picture.

          Vs 191v at all points
          Va 63v at all points
          M5v 4.96V
          5v_det 5.02v
          RL_ON 3.22v
          M5V_ON 3.75v
          all fixed voltages ie if it says 12v or 5 v or 16.5v also correct.

          There are others leaving the Ysus down to the bottom board
          XR 16.52v
          XC 16.57v
          XL 16.50V

          Will get the rest after work tonight.

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          • dick_barton
            Badcaps Legend
            • Aug 2015
            • 6642
            • Wales

            #6
            Re: LG 50PG10 Sound No Picture.

            What voltages are listed on the label on the rear of the panel?
            Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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            • Hawk2112
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              • Jun 2010
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              #7
              Re: LG 50PG10 Sound No Picture.

              Originally posted by dick_barton
              What voltages are listed on the label on the rear of the panel?
              back of the panel is
              5V
              Va: 65
              Vs: 193
              Attached Files

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              • Hawk2112
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                • Jun 2010
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                #8
                Re: LG 50PG10 Sound No Picture.

                Originally posted by ReeceyBurger123
                Right what voltages have you tested ? No point just telling us they are fine need to verify. Need Vsc, Vz, Yup etc. cheers.
                all the test voltages and points that I check. Was not able to find the ones Vsc, Vz, Yup

                Vs 191v at all points
                Va 63v at all points
                M5v 4.96V
                5v_det 5.02v
                RL_ON 3.22v
                M5V_ON 3.75v

                all fixed voltages ie if it says 12v or 5 v or 16.5v also correct.

                AC_DET 4.95V
                VS_ON 3.26V
                AUTO_GND 3.25V

                There are others leaving the Ysus down to the bottom board

                XR 16.52v
                XC 16.57v
                XL 16.50V
                +15v 16.51V
                Va 62.1V
                Attached Files

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                • Hawk2112
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                  • Jun 2010
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                  #9
                  Re: LG 50PG10 Sound No Picture.

                  Any ideas where to check next or is this just a dead screen maybe?

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                  • Jeff Pepin
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2014
                    • 103
                    • CANADA

                    #10
                    Re: LG 50PG10 Sound No Picture.

                    Vsc testpoints are located on the y-sustain board
                    Same for -vy

                    Should be printed directly on the board , look like your y sustain not prime the panel

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                    • Jeff Pepin
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 103
                      • CANADA

                      #11
                      Re: LG 50PG10 Sound No Picture.

                      On your sticker you see

                      N.A/ -190 / 135 / N.A / 100

                      According to LG these readings are standart for all plasma models

                      Setup / -VY / VSC / VE / VZB

                      -vy and vsc testpoint are on y sustain , ans vzb are on the z sustain

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                      • Jeff Pepin
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                        • Jun 2014
                        • 103
                        • CANADA

                        #12
                        Re: LG 50PG10 Sound No Picture.

                        If you have no image but sound and the screen is same as if it turned off and the fuse on the y sustIn is not blown i bet for an blowed open mosfet like "45F122"

                        But can be a burned open resistor on the board

                        Did yku hear de sustain buzzing when the tv is on ?

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                        • Hawk2112
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                          • Jun 2010
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                          #13
                          Re: LG 50PG10 Sound No Picture.

                          Originally posted by Jeff Pepin
                          Vsc testpoints are located on the y-sustain board
                          Same for -vy

                          Should be printed directly on the board , look like your y sustain not prime the panel
                          These are the only refs to Vsc vy etc but ccan't find any test points labeled for them
                          Attached Files

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                          • Jeff Pepin
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                            • Jun 2014
                            • 103
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                            #14
                            Re: LG 50PG10 Sound No Picture.

                            Check here
                            Attached Files

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                            • Hawk2112
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                              #15
                              Re: LG 50PG10 Sound No Picture.

                              Originally posted by Jeff Pepin
                              If you have no image but sound and the screen is same as if it turned off and the fuse on the y sustIn is not blown i bet for an blowed open mosfet like "45F122"

                              But can be a burned open resistor on the board

                              Did yku hear de sustain buzzing when the tv is on ?
                              I do hear a buzzing when there is no audio playing. Checking the points you posted in your last response shortly.

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                              • Hawk2112
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                                #16
                                Re: LG 50PG10 Sound No Picture.

                                Originally posted by Jeff Pepin
                                Check here
                                VY R201 5.21V across resistor
                                Vsc R202 153.0V " "
                                C213 135.1V on right leg

                                I am assuming R201 is way to low?

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                                • Jeff Pepin
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Jun 2014
                                  • 103
                                  • CANADA

                                  #17
                                  Re: LG 50PG10 Sound No Picture.

                                  I agree vy should be 185 volts over there and is probably why ur tv fail , all other reading look good exept vsc , too high + 20v
                                  Last edited by Jeff Pepin; 01-17-2017, 02:41 AM.

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                                  • Hawk2112
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                                    #18
                                    Re: LG 50PG10 Sound No Picture.

                                    Originally posted by Jeff Pepin
                                    I agree vy should be 185 volts over there and is probably why ur tv fail , all other reading look good exept vsc , too high + 20v
                                    Was mis-typed Vsc is 135.2V

                                    Still checking but no luck so far finding the cause of the Vy being so low.

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                                    • ReeceyBurger123
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                                      • May 2014
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                                      #19
                                      Re: LG 50PG10 Sound No Picture.

                                      Removed the buffers and retest Vy.
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                                      • Hawk2112
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                                        #20
                                        Re: LG 50PG10 Sound No Picture.

                                        Originally posted by ReeceyBurger123
                                        Removed the buffers and retest Vy.
                                        both buffers out:

                                        Vy 0.01V across resistor : 20V referenced to ground
                                        Vsc 135.2V

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