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  • tvfixer007
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2015
    • 86
    • United States

    #1

    Samsung UN60H7150AF Burned IC

    TV won't power on. When I unplugged the main board the back lights come on and stay on. Was able to test power supply voltages with main board removed they all looked within margin. I spotted burned (IC206) on the main board but can't find a schematic for this TV.

    Was wondering if I should just order a new IC and cross my fingers? Or that something else is the cause for the IC to fry?
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  • petehall347
    Badcaps Legend
    • Jan 2015
    • 4426
    • United Kingdom

    #2
    Re: Samsung UN60H7150AF Burned IC

    you need to be checking everything connected to it ..without a schematic its not so easy .. only things to short are semi conductors and the occasional capacitor .
    you could take an educated guess and look up the data sheet for the ic . looks like a z3015pi1

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    • tvfixer007
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2015
      • 86
      • United States

      #3
      Re: Samsung UN60H7150AF Burned IC

      Okay thanks. I found the data sheet for it. Will post back when I find anything else wrong.

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Samsung UN60H7150AF Burned IC

        http://www.aosmd.com/search?pn=AOZ3015
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        Last edited by budm; 01-08-2017, 10:06 PM.
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        • saddle_au
          Waste Warrior
          • Jan 2013
          • 121
          • Australia

          #5
          Re: Samsung UN60H7150AF Burned IC

          Check the input voltages before replacing it. Anything above 18v-20v frys that chip. Its supposed to be good for 3A. The output voltage for this circuit will be,

          (R2003+R2004+R2005)*0.8/(R2003+R2004)

          If you measure those, you can work out what voltage this circuit is supposed to be generating.

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          • CapLeaker
            Leaking Member
            • Dec 2014
            • 8177
            • Canada

            #6
            Re: Samsung UN60H7150AF Burned IC

            I'd be checking th buck regulator's output to GND. If there is a low resistance, either remove that dc to dc buck converter or the inductor beside it and check for a short to GND again.
            Last edited by CapLeaker; 01-09-2017, 05:53 AM.

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            • tvfixer007
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2015
              • 86
              • United States

              #7
              Re: Samsung UN60H7150AF Burned IC

              I get no reading for buck output to ground. However I found low resistance on D207 and the 4 caps to it's left. I didn't know if it would be safe to power it up and test the voltages?
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              • Diah
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2013
                • 6376
                • Germany

                #8
                Re: Samsung UN60H7150AF Burned IC

                Originally posted by tvfixer007
                I get no reading for buck output to ground. However I found low resistance on D207 and the 4 caps to it's left. I didn't know if it would be safe to power it up and test the voltages?
                any reading and this burn IC still on board are useless. must be out from the board first then test around in general this regulator should it had zinner diode in circuit i cant find it on board.. it may the ZC2009 fly out by heat !!!

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Samsung UN60H7150AF Burned IC

                  Originally posted by tvfixer007
                  I get no reading for buck output to ground. However I found low resistance on D207 and the 4 caps to it's left. I didn't know if it would be safe to power it up and test the voltages?
                  That does not make sense for you to not see at the output low resistance reading to GND since the CATHODE of D207 (Anode connected to GND) is connected to the VOut pin 8 of the IC. D207 looks to clamping diode to protect the circuit in case the internal MOSFET Q1 of the IC shorted out.
                  Last edited by budm; 01-09-2017, 02:40 PM.
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • saddle_au
                    Waste Warrior
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 121
                    • Australia

                    #10
                    Re: Samsung UN60H7150AF Burned IC

                    Suck the chip off and measure it separately. This fault may also have been caused by something upstream or a short in the inductor (shorted turn) or shorted fly back diode. measure the output resistance to ground with the chip out to see if the load is also causing a problem.

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                    • tvfixer007
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2015
                      • 86
                      • United States

                      #11
                      Re: Samsung UN60H7150AF Burned IC

                      Originally posted by budm
                      That does not make sense for you to not see at the output low resistance reading to GND since the CATHODE of D207 (Anode connected to GND) is connected to the VOut pin 8 of the IC. D207 looks to clamping diode to protect the circuit in case the internal MOSFET Q1 of the IC shorted out.
                      Sorry about that I was thinking pin 4 was pin 8.

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                      • tvfixer007
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2015
                        • 86
                        • United States

                        #12
                        Re: Samsung UN60H7150AF Burned IC

                        Originally posted by saddle_au
                        Suck the chip off and measure it separately. This fault may also have been caused by something upstream or a short in the inductor (shorted turn) or shorted fly back diode. measure the output resistance to ground with the chip out to see if the load is also causing a problem.
                        Couldn't remove the chip.

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                        • budm
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 40746
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: Samsung UN60H7150AF Burned IC

                          There is bare pad on the bottom of the IC (see IC spec sheet) to transfer the heat to the copper pad on the board so it will take quite a bit of heat to remove the IC.
                          Cut the legs off the IC first will help.
                          Attached Files
                          Last edited by budm; 01-10-2017, 02:50 PM.
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • dick_barton
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Aug 2015
                            • 6643
                            • Wales

                            #14
                            Re: Samsung UN60H7150AF Burned IC

                            Run solder on all 4 pins on both sides of the IC and move your iron between each side until the solder is molten on both sides then lift the chip off the board.
                            Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                            • saddle_au
                              Waste Warrior
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 121
                              • Australia

                              #15
                              Re: Samsung UN60H7150AF Burned IC

                              If the chip is soldered underneath and you snip the legs, unless you have a very sharp zero cut angle pointy pair of snips, you risk lifting the pads during the snipping. Heating the board from the top or underneath also risks lifting pads and tracks.

                              Run a blob of solder down each side of the chip leaving a gap between the plastic and solder. Do this until all four legs of each side is just one mass of solder. Joining all four legs makes the legs and pads more rigid. Use your snips now or better a sharpie (Stanley blade here) and cut the legs off on the edge of the chip, then melt and remove the four legs in one go. You will be left with a legless plastic blob that you can physically attack without hurting the pads. Snip the top off until you see silicon, then cover it in solder, it should lift away.

                              Sometimes its not solder underneath, but glue. Twisting the legless plastic blob also releases it.

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                              • petehall347
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Jan 2015
                                • 4426
                                • United Kingdom

                                #16
                                Re: Samsung UN60H7150AF Burned IC

                                use a heat gun or chip quick might do it .

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                                • tvfixer007
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Feb 2015
                                  • 86
                                  • United States

                                  #17
                                  Re: Samsung UN60H7150AF Burned IC

                                  I tried soldering iron first no success. Lost my heat gun. Tried to cut pins off but scalped a few traces.
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                                  • tvfixer007
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Feb 2015
                                    • 86
                                    • United States

                                    #18
                                    Re: Samsung UN60H7150AF Burned IC

                                    Originally posted by Diah
                                    any reading and this burn IC still on board are useless. must be out from the board first then test around in general this regulator should it had zinner diode in circuit i cant find it on board.. it may the ZC2009 fly out by heat !!!
                                    I looked at this board on a few sites which ZC2009 and ZC2004 are not present on these boards.

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                                    • tvfixer007
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Feb 2015
                                      • 86
                                      • United States

                                      #19
                                      Re: Samsung UN60H7150AF Burned IC

                                      I tested D207 out of circuit and it's shorted.

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                                      • budm
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 40746
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: Samsung UN60H7150AF Burned IC

                                        Yep, that is why the IC burnt up, Q1 was feeding that shorted out D207, the protection (Vout sense pin) did not act fast enough to turn off Q1.
                                        Last edited by budm; 01-10-2017, 11:01 PM.
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                        Comment

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