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  • ajshoe
    ajshoe
    • Dec 2012
    • 477
    • usa

    #1

    dreaded Philips power supply

    Have a Philips 46PFL5505 TV that won't power up. Originally would after unplugging set and waiting - power up ok. got worse and now won't power up. 5V is not there - When power is applied - 5V is there for a second and then trickles down to -. I have bench tested power supply. same scenerio - 5V comes up then goes down. Have checked everything on PWB - can't find problem. Does anyone have any experience with these Power supplies ?? It is a UPBPSPDEL004. Also a UPBPSPDEL003 is the same PWB. Any suggestion would help - can't seem to find any of these boards available for purchase.

    tests - have 0V at +5.3V C0N2 pin 9
    have 600V @ C800 & C808 (across them)
    checked all optos
    thought T901 was bad - but now think its freq circuit before that, this circuit turns on transformer.







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    Last edited by ajshoe; 07-18-2016, 12:53 PM.
  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #2
    Re: dreaded Philips power supply

    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...2&d=1468865850
    Did you check those two electrolytics cap in the top left section where the 5VSTBY circuit is? Did you check the diodes D952, ZD951 in the cold side of the 5VSTBY.
    You can also heat up those two caps with hair dryer to see if the 5VSTBY will come up and stay up?
    Last edited by budm; 07-18-2016, 12:24 PM.
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • ajshoe
      ajshoe
      • Dec 2012
      • 477
      • usa

      #3
      Re: dreaded Philips power supply

      Have checked all diodes and zeners. r u talking about caps C800 & C808 under heatsink ?
      Last edited by ajshoe; 07-18-2016, 12:50 PM.

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #4
        Re: dreaded Philips power supply

        Top left corner of your pictures, you can see two small lytics caps by the small transformer and the SMPS IC for the STBY..
        https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...2&d=1468865850
        Pictures are not clear enough to read the designators.
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • ajshoe
          ajshoe
          • Dec 2012
          • 477
          • usa

          #5
          Re: dreaded Philips power supply

          you must mean C906 & C912 ??

          applied heat to area you posted - 5V did come on. put a 2k resistor on 5V to ground - 5V fluctuated a little but stayed on. not sure if caps, transformer, or smps made it turn on. checked caps - they tested good on ESR, transformer seems good also.
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          Last edited by ajshoe; 07-18-2016, 03:47 PM.

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          • ajshoe
            ajshoe
            • Dec 2012
            • 477
            • usa

            #6
            Re: dreaded Philips power supply

            If anybody has a UPBPSPDEL003 or UPBPSPDEL004 for sale - please PM me. Don't think these PWB are repairable. thanks

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #7
              Re: dreaded Philips power supply

              Why not trying replacing those two caps?
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • ajshoe
                ajshoe
                • Dec 2012
                • 477
                • usa

                #8
                Re: dreaded Philips power supply

                Just a follow up on this PWB - sent it to PTS and they repaired it. I spent many hours on this PWB and never got +5V standby to stay on. These PWB are tricky to say the least. Thanks PTS !

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                • R_J
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 9535
                  • Canada

                  #9
                  Re: dreaded Philips power supply

                  I would change the ic901 dnp005, also check the voltage on zd901 (UDZ7V5B-7), should be around 7.5 volts (use hot ground not chassis), if its there, check Q902 (transistor),q903 & q9o4(fets)

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                  • ajshoe
                    ajshoe
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 477
                    • usa

                    #10
                    Re: dreaded Philips power supply

                    wish I had that info earlier !! I did replace zd901 and 2 other diodes. I had a feeling that IC901 was bad. I hope I don't see another one of these sets. does have a decent pic but doesn't warrant working on another one !

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                    • R_J
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 9535
                      • Canada

                      #11
                      Re: dreaded Philips power supply

                      Does this manual help? I think its the same power supply, not sure if you had it or not.
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