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  • bandof41
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    • Jan 2016
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    #1

    black Light problem ln-t4069f

    So I got a TV off a friend, he said it didn't work and he said if I changed the capacitors it'd work again, so I went and I changed the capacitors and it still didn't work.

    so I trouble shooted some more and saw that I had a picture on my screen (had to shine a light) and sound, so no black Light. I managed to get a new inverter board off a local guy for cheap and I put that in and still no black Light.

    Trouble shooting continued, and I tested all the power, standbys good, power ons good, and the 12v to the inverter was good. Next I took a florescent light and ran it along the high voltage parts and nothing. So I took the inverter board off and checked all the mini transformers, again fine.

    I noticed there was a slight noise, almost like a buzz it seemed like it was coming from the bigger transformer on the power supply. I checked the fuse for it (T3,15A250V) it read 709ohm

    Then I checked the transformer, tms92267ct, one side read 709ohm and the other 001ohm

    So a little help? Should I just replace the full power board? Will I get away with just replacing the fuse? Or maybe the transformer?

    Any other information you want, let me know

    Here's some pictures https://plus.google.com/100926239867...ts/9xwtYuY4rkN
  • ReeceyBurger123
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    • May 2014
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    • Britain

    #2
    Re: black Light problem ln-t4069f

    Does the bl flash on at all ? If so transformer at fault here if not something else is causing no bl.
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    • bandof41
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      #3
      Re: black Light problem ln-t4069f

      Yeah the blacklight doesn't come on at all

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      • bandof41
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        • Jan 2016
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        #4
        Re: black Light problem ln-t4069f

        So I noticed that the there's some black on the strips
        https://plus.google.com/100926239867...ts/dpr13pyW15C

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        • budm
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          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #5
          Re: black Light problem ln-t4069f

          You have power supply-inverter board combo, P/N BN44-??????
          The big long green board connected to the lamp sockets is the Balancer board.

          SO: ' I checked the fuse for it (T3,15A250V) it read 709ohm ' are you saying the red fuse shows that much resistance?
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • bandof41
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            • Jan 2016
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            #6
            Re: black Light problem ln-t4069f

            Originally posted by budm
            You have power supply-inverter board combo, P/N BN44-??????
            The big long green board connected to the lamp sockets is the Balancer board.

            SO: ' I checked the fuse for it (T3,15A250V) it read 709ohm ' are you saying the red fuse shows that much resistance?
            Yeah it shows that much, is that wrong?

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            • bandof41
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              • Jan 2016
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              #7
              Re: black Light problem ln-t4069f

              Originally posted by budm
              You have power supply-inverter board combo, P/N BN44-??????
              The big long green board connected to the lamp sockets is the Balancer board.

              SO: ' I checked the fuse for it (T3,15A250V) it read 709ohm ' are you saying the red fuse shows that much resistance?
              I stripped back further if you want to see
              https://plus.google.com/100926239867...ts/3kQKSDGnNgY

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #8
                Re: black Light problem ln-t4069f

                You do have some worn out lamps, the good ones have white coating at the end of the lamps, the worn out one you can see coloration.
                It will only take one bad lamp to trip the protection circuit.
                Similar setup and test procedure to find out if you have bad lamps:
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE6K4xBVweA
                Last edited by budm; 01-29-2016, 04:10 PM.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • bandof41
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                  • Jan 2016
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                  #9
                  Re: black Light problem ln-t4069f

                  Originally posted by budm
                  You do have some worn out lamps, the good ones have white coating at the end of the lamps, the worn out one you can see coloration.
                  It will only take one bad lamp to trip the protection circuit.
                  Similar setup and test procedure to find out if you have bad lamps:
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE6K4xBVweA
                  How do I tell? They all kind look the same, do you have any references?

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: black Light problem ln-t4069f

                    Did you watch that video and try making the Voltage measurement yet?
                    We still do not know the P/N of the power supply-inverter board, BN44-?????
                    Attached Files
                    Last edited by budm; 01-29-2016, 06:06 PM.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • bandof41
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                      • Jan 2016
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                      #11
                      Re: black Light problem ln-t4069f

                      Originally posted by budm
                      Did you watch that video and try making the Voltage measurement yet?
                      We still do not know the P/N of the power supply-inverter board, BN44-?????
                      It's a bn44-00167c.

                      And I'm checking the volts now I had to put the TV back together

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                      • bandof41
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                        • Jan 2016
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                        #12
                        Re: black Light problem ln-t4069f

                        Originally posted by budm
                        Did you watch that video and try making the Voltage measurement yet?
                        We still do not know the P/N of the power supply-inverter board, BN44-?????
                        I don't know if it's my multi meter but it won't read any AC voltage but for DC the lower have (when being set too 200m) says around 9 till half way up it goes to around 5 for the rest of the way

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                        • budm
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                          • Feb 2010
                          • 40746
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: black Light problem ln-t4069f

                          What DCV do you have on the CNI806 on the power supply board after the power switch is turned on?
                          PIN 1 VCC_12V = ????
                          PIN 5 LD (Lamp Detect) = ??????
                          Last edited by budm; 01-29-2016, 09:20 PM.
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: black Light problem ln-t4069f

                            Originally posted by bandof41
                            I don't know if it's my multi meter but it won't read any AC voltage but for DC the lower have (when being set too 200m) says around 9 till half way up it goes to around 5 for the rest of the way
                            Per Video, there are many test points on the balancer board that you need to check to see if one of the lamp has trigger the protection circuit, so I have no idea which one is giving you the reading you have indicated.
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • budm
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 40746
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: black Light problem ln-t4069f

                              So now we know what the P/N of the board is, see the diagram attached (REV B), since the Backligts did not even flash on for seconds then we need to look at the inverter section.
                              BTW, ALL the fuses are OK, especially fuse FI801 for the Inverter circuit.
                              You should also veirfy thatyou do have >380VDC at both ends of the fuse FI801 with ref to the negative leg of the main filter cap.
                              http://www.shopjimmy.com/samsung-bn4...pply-unit.htm#
                              Attached Files
                              Last edited by budm; 01-29-2016, 10:14 PM.
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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