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  • Ceredox
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    • Nov 2015
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    #1

    Insignia NS-29LD120A13 Keeps restarting

    Hey guys and gals. I have an Insignia NS-29LD120A13 that i got from a friend and it keeps restarting about every 6 and a half seconds or so. Heat doesnt seem to be a facor - i tried the localized blow dryer method and it didn't make any difference. Its always at 6.5 seconds every time. I'm certain that it is a power supply problem because the whole TV powers off completely and restarts but i'm seeing no physical signs. The supply seems hard to find so id prefer to fix it. When its running, the big capacitor on the power side has 325.8 VDC and when the tv restarts, it retains that voltage. Same goes for the audio amplifier and the transisters. Keep in mind that mi'm not sure what these components should actually be running at. It's just acting as if someone unplugged the TV and plugged it back in. Anyone have any thoughts as to what this could be?

    Thanks,
    Josh
  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Insignia NS-29LD120A13 Keeps restarting

    Is this the power supply?
    Megmeet MIP293 Power Supply / Backlight Inverter
    http://www.shopjimmy.com/megmeet-mip...t-inverter.htm

    Do you still get 325VDC between the two legs of the main filter cap if the cable between the main board and the power supply board is disconnected?
    Pictures of YOUR board?
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • Ceredox
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      • Nov 2015
      • 9
      • United States of America

      #3
      Re: Insignia NS-29LD120A13 Keeps restarting

      Originally posted by budm
      Is this the power supply?
      Megmeet MIP293 Power Supply / Backlight Inverter
      http://www.shopjimmy.com/megmeet-mip...t-inverter.htm

      Do you still get 325VDC between the two legs of the main filter cap if the cable between the main board and the power supply board is disconnected?
      Pictures of YOUR board?
      Oh im sorry, i forgot to add the board model. Yes, that is the power supply.

      So... since this post, i have a little backstory. While checking to see where power was lost when the TV restarts, I was checking voltage on the legs of one of the Mosfets. This one had about 70VAC and when i kept it on the legs, the TV actually stayed on. As soon as i took it off, the fuse blew and the mosfet started smoking. So i dont really trust it. I replaced it with one i had hanging around with very similar stats. (I am well aware that this isn't a great idea and don't make a habit of practicing it). I replaced the fuse and the TV turns on now and does the same thing. BUT the filer cap is running at 140Vdc now. I'm assuming that this is because of the component i substituted. I'm not going to leave it on for any extended period of time until i can get the correct one. But to answer your question, It reads 139v when the main board is plugged in and when i unplug it, it goes to about 165v. I don't know if this at least helps you a little. Although the values have been compromised. I'll remove the baord and get some pictures up as well.

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Insignia NS-29LD120A13 Keeps restarting

        If the Voltage reading between the two legs of the main filter cap was showing 325VDC, it means that the main board is getting the STBY Voltage to run and the main board is sending the PS-ON to turn on the PFC Voltage booster circuit to boost the DCV on the two legs of the filter cap to 325VDC which is by the way too low, it should be close to 400VDC.
        BTW, are you using the chassis as the GND ref. for the meter when you are measuring the DCV in the primary (HOT) side of the circuit, if you did then your readings are invalid.
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • Ceredox
          New Member
          • Nov 2015
          • 9
          • United States of America

          #5
          Re: Insignia NS-29LD120A13 Keeps restarting

          Here are some pics of the board in question. Not sure exactly what you need some hopefully this helps somewhat. The second one from the left mounted on the heat sink is the one i replaced.
          Attached Files

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Insignia NS-29LD120A13 Keeps restarting

            That is the Power MOSFET for the PFC Voltage booster circuit, so more likely the PFC Controller IC is also damaged, also check to see if RP2 is still showing <1 Ohm.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • Ceredox
              New Member
              • Nov 2015
              • 9
              • United States of America

              #7
              Re: Insignia NS-29LD120A13 Keeps restarting

              Originally posted by budm
              If the Voltage reading between the two legs of the main filter cap was showing 325VDC, it means that the main board is getting the STBY Voltage to run and the main board is sending the PS-ON to turn on the PFC Voltage booster circuit to boost the DCV on the two legs of the filter cap to 325VDC which is by the way too low, it should be close to 400VDC.
              BTW, are you using the chassis as the GND ref. for the meter when you are measuring the DCV in the primary (HOT) side of the circuit, if you did then your readings are invalid.
              Ok, i did think that 325v was lower than what i usually hear people talk about but i wasn't sure if this TV was just different for whatever reason. I'm still pretty new at this. Do you know why that would be so low? No i didn't use the chassis. But it is very likely i didn't measure it right, I'm not fantastic with transistors yet. Usually, i'm looking for something very much out of the ordinary as opposed to what I've seen before.

              Also, Do you have any recommendations on good articles to measure voltage across them? I do know how they work to some extent but in Tv's I shooting in the dark for the most part.

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              • Ceredox
                New Member
                • Nov 2015
                • 9
                • United States of America

                #8
                Re: Insignia NS-29LD120A13 Keeps restarting

                Originally posted by budm
                That is the Power MOSFET for the PFC Voltage booster circuit, so more likely the PFC Controller IC is also damaged, also check to see if RP2 is still showing <1 Ohm.
                RP2 is reading .5 Ohms.
                I see 2 Ics on the hot side on the underneath of the board. Is one of those the one your referring to?

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Insignia NS-29LD120A13 Keeps restarting

                  When PFC Voltage is too law, it usually due to faulty feedback circuit that is used to maintain the output Voltage, the resistors network in the feedback circuit were probably drifted in values.
                  I do not know how much you want to spend on 29" TV.
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • Ceredox
                    New Member
                    • Nov 2015
                    • 9
                    • United States of America

                    #10
                    Re: Insignia NS-29LD120A13 Keeps restarting

                    I got it for free and i can buy a board for it but to be honest i'm mostly just interested in learning and trying to repair it This isn't really an investment for me. Money isn't much of an object as long as i get better at something.

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Insignia NS-29LD120A13 Keeps restarting

                      At this point I would get the new Power MOSFET, the PFC Controller IC, and check that resistor I told you to check.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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