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  • mattstolte
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Dec 2013
    • 612
    • usa

    #1

    Vizio E470VL NO Backlight help

    ok got this tv and at first backlight would come on then shut off, now I cant get backlight to come on, but tv will power up just no backlight. atfirst I thought it was bad power supply now im not sure
    I have my
    5v standby
    12v
    ps on is 2.2
    I on/off .75v
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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Vizio E470VL NO Backlight help

    'I on/off .75v[ATTACH]' Inverter on/off is too low, <1VDC = OFF, >2.5VDC = ON.
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • mattstolte
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Dec 2013
      • 612
      • usa

      #3
      Re: Vizio E470VL NO Backlight help

      Originally posted by budm
      'I on/off .75v[ATTACH]' Inverter on/off is too low, <1VDC = OFF, >2.5VDC = ON.
      Power supply or main board fault?

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Vizio E470VL NO Backlight help

        https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...56&postcount=1
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • mattstolte
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Dec 2013
          • 612
          • usa

          #5
          Re: Vizio E470VL NO Backlight help

          So I'm kind of confused. I know the main sends these signals to the psu to turn on. I have some boltages but not all. So is main bad? Or is main sending its signal but power supply is not producing enough voltage?

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Vizio E470VL NO Backlight help

            The main signal is not sending enough Voltage level, it has to be >2.5V for the Backlights circuit to turn on. You can try forcing on the backlights using resistor but you MUST disconnect the BL-ON wire going back to the main board FIRST.
            Think about your car, will your car start with 6V?
            Last edited by budm; 11-27-2015, 08:11 PM.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • mattstolte
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Dec 2013
              • 612
              • usa

              #7
              Re: Vizio E470VL NO Backlight help

              Originally posted by budm
              The main signal is not sending enough Voltage level, it has to be >2.5V for the Backlights circuit to turn on. You can try forcing on the backlights using resistor but you MUST disconnect the BL-ON wire going back to the main board FIRST.
              Think about your car, will your car start with 6V?

              Now is there a certain component on that main board that is responsible for this that I can change

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Vizio E470VL NO Backlight help

                The problem can be caused by bad Voltage regulator IC, BL-ON switched Transistor that switch HI and LO which is controlled by the controller IC, bad caps, bad EEPROM, bad connections, etc.
                So unless you have the diagram to show the details how the BL-ON signal is generated then you just have to start looking at all those parts on the board I mention above
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • mattstolte
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Dec 2013
                  • 612
                  • usa

                  #9
                  Re: Vizio E470VL NO Backlight help

                  bud where can I get diagram for this so I can check components 3647-0292-0150 even if I have to pay somewhere for it it fine, im sick if swapping boards I need to learn component repair

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Vizio E470VL NO Backlight help

                    Originally posted by mattstolte
                    bud where can I get diagram for this so I can check components 3647-0292-0150 even if I have to pay somewhere for it it fine, im sick if swapping boards I need to learn component repair
                    I have no idea where you find one.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                    Comment

                    • mattstolte
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Dec 2013
                      • 612
                      • usa

                      #11
                      Re: Vizio E470VL NO Backlight help

                      Originally posted by budm
                      I have no idea where you find one.
                      I recently bought a new bk precision esr/dcr meter and I found 2 caps on the main that are shorted and high esr. The metal can smd caps. I'm going to try to replace them. I have never changed out these type of caps. Any hints for switching these type

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                      • triplefour
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • May 2014
                        • 1747
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Vizio E470VL NO Backlight help

                        did you ever replace the caps? did it fix the tv?? so tired of these dead ends
                        Don't fear the repair...

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                        • Anthony M
                          Member
                          • Apr 2017
                          • 14
                          • Usa

                          #13
                          Re: Vizio E470VL NO Backlight help

                          Hi all I don't know how to create a thread so I am piggybacking here , I apologize . I have a vizio tv E470VL. Recently the screen went black and I only get sound. I did a flashlight test and I can see images. I was told it could be either a bad power supply led board or bad led strips in the screen itself. How can pinpoint which is th e problem to see if it's worth fixing. Thanks Anthony M

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: Vizio E470VL NO Backlight help

                            Do you have good Meter with good battery in it for testing DC Voltage?
                            We will need good straight shot pictures of the power supply board and the closed up pictures around the connectors of the power supply board so we can clearly see the labels for each pin of the connectors.
                            Testing Voltages is the first step at this point.
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                            Comment

                            • Anthony M
                              Member
                              • Apr 2017
                              • 14
                              • Usa

                              #15
                              Re: Vizio E470VL NO Backlight help

                              I have a voltage meter to test outlets it also can test ohms and continuity . I can take some pics and post

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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: Vizio E470VL NO Backlight help

                                We need the pictures so we can see what we are dealing with, and with the pictures that show the pins' name then we can tell you what to test.
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                Comment

                                • Anthony M
                                  Member
                                  • Apr 2017
                                  • 14
                                  • Usa

                                  #17
                                  Re: Vizio E470VL NO Backlight help

                                  Pics
                                  Attached Files

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                                  • budm
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 40746
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: Vizio E470VL NO Backlight help

                                    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...4&d=1491418312
                                    So with the connector is still in place:
                                    1) TV is pluggeg into the outlet but not turn on yet.
                                    2) Black probe on the metal chassis.
                                    3) Red probe on each one of those pins on the connector (you may need skinny probe to make contact with the terminals), report the DCV reading of each pin in this format:
                                    TV OFF
                                    DIM = ??? V
                                    LAMP = ??? V
                                    I-ON/OFF = ??? V
                                    so on and so on

                                    4) Activate the power switch and repeat the same procedure in #3
                                    Just remember one thing, wrong DATA can lead to wrong troubleshooting path.
                                    Make sure your meter is good and has good batteries.
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                    Comment

                                    • Anthony M
                                      Member
                                      • Apr 2017
                                      • 14
                                      • Usa

                                      #19
                                      Re: Vizio E470VL NO Backlight help

                                      TV Off. TV On
                                      DIM. 0. 3.3
                                      Lamp. 0. 0
                                      I-On/off. 0. 3.3
                                      PS_On. 0. 2.3

                                      12V. 0. 12.3
                                      0. 12.3
                                      0. 12.3

                                      SGND. 0 0
                                      0. 0
                                      0. 0
                                      0. 0

                                      +5VSB. 5.2. 5.2
                                      5.2 5.2
                                      5.2. 5.2

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                                      • vinceroger69
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Mar 2012
                                        • 6714
                                        • uk

                                        #20
                                        Re: Vizio E470VL NO Backlight help

                                        Originally posted by Anthony M
                                        Hi all I don't know how to create a thread so I am piggybacking here , I apologize . I have a vizio tv E470VL. Recently the screen went black and I only get sound. I did a flashlight test and I can see images. I was told it could be either a bad power supply led board or bad led strips in the screen itself. How can pinpoint which is th e problem to see if it's worth fixing. Thanks Anthony M
                                        Looking at the psu this is not a led set it uses ccfl/eefl tubes i think so may be a faulty tube/wiring issue as your viltages look ok but budm will confirm

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