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  • tw2005
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    #21
    Re: Panasonic tc-p50s30 su,sc,ss repair help

    Originally posted by bman4
    Can i mix a 50gt30 upper buffer with a 50s30 lower buffer?

    Is there a list of substitutes buffers anywhere?
    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...ight=tc-p50s30

    I'm pretty sure I've looked at pictures of these before but the SU from memory gt should have heatsinks and between the 2 the other difference I spooted was one had an additional ceramic cap in cct which is most likely to do with matching the board to the panel as the GT would have a different panel version

    so depending which has what for example if yours has it and the gt does not then take the cap off yours and solder it in the same location on the gt and if th gt has it and yours does not then just remove it or just leave it and probably won't tell the difference.
    Last edited by tw2005; 08-04-2015, 10:21 AM.

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    • tw2005
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      #22
      Re: Panasonic tc-p50s30 su,sc,ss repair help

      check these. the ST30 looks the same as the gt30 minus heatsinks. Yours has the cap, the others do not so swap that cap and I believe that will make it the same plus you'll have heatsinks
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      Last edited by tw2005; 08-04-2015, 10:42 AM.

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      • bman4
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        #23
        Re: Panasonic tc-p50s30 su,sc,ss repair help

        I found a orginal su,ill just add some heatsinks myself.
        Shouldent it power up without sc50 jumped since the buffers are now isolated?
        Also read something that the pcb along the bottom could be a 8 blink culprit.
        These are not my first ribbion connectors so i allways tripple check keyed points and make shure they are in as deeply evenly as posible!
        Ill will also try cleaning and reseating each ribbion connector's.

        Thank you
        bman4
        Last edited by bman4; 08-04-2015, 03:55 PM.

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        • tw2005
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          #24
          Re: Panasonic tc-p50s30 su,sc,ss repair help

          Originally posted by bman4
          I found a orginal su,ill just add some heatsinks myself.
          Shouldent it power up without sc50 jumped since the buffers are now isolated?
          Also read something that the pcb along the bottom could be a 8 blink culprit.
          These are not my first ribbion connectors so i allways tripple check keyed points and make shure they are in as deeply evenly as posible!
          Ill will also try cleaning and reseating each ribbion connector's.

          Thank you
          bman4
          I'll simplify this for you. You don't have an 8 blink or any blink issue other than the original fault which has been proven to be the buffers. the whole point of me asking you you hook it all up minus the buffers with sc50 jumpered and then have it stay on with no error blink dictates this.

          I think you need to do some reading on how these pansonics work. Any disconnection of buffers from the SC will cause a shutdown as it open ccts the CHA line. SC50 jumpered completes that cct therefor when testing or trying to isolate a 7 blinker if it goes away the only thing it can then be are the buffers and if it remains the SC is bad plus the buffers also can be bad.

          Disconnection of the SC20 ribbon will trigger 8 blink it's all in the training guides.

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          • bman4
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            #25
            Re: Panasonic tc-p50s30 su,sc,ss repair help

            Okay ive just been reading to much.

            I read somewhere that they got a panasonic to stay on with solid led with bufers isolated but thats a diffrent model, 50gt50 or something.

            When people where mentioning that the 8 blink could be faulty panel i got a little strssed out because i checked every pixel with a flash light for faults or crack's and found none and i thougt it might be a internal gas leak.

            Im ordering the new su on aug 7, ill get back as soon as it's installed.

            I already read the manual onece a while ago,im just going to read it again and maybe learn something new!

            The ammout of help i see you provided on these forms is outstanding &priceless you should be paid for the services you provide to the comunity!

            Im not going to bother you again unless it's 100% important because the ammout of people that u serve is unbleavable and your time is invalueable!

            I could never thank you enough for the knowledge you provided me,if allowed i will find a way to send a dontation for the money u saved me!


            sincerely,
            bman4
            Last edited by bman4; 08-04-2015, 08:40 PM.

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            • bman4
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              #26
              Re: Panasonic tc-p50s30 su,sc,ss repair help

              i just installed the new su and it fired up, i got a couple lines to work out but it fired right up no erros.

              im only working on the ribbions witht he tv off so i cant mess up,
              ill get back as soon as i fix the lines!


              thank you,
              sincerely,
              bman4

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              • bman4
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                #27
                Re: Panasonic tc-p50s30 su,sc,ss repair help

                i fixed all the line's, it's beautiful!

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                • tw2005
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                  #28
                  Re: Panasonic tc-p50s30 su,sc,ss repair help

                  Originally posted by bman4
                  i fixed all the line's, it's beautiful!

                  good, how easy was that

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                  • bman4
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                    #29
                    Re: Panasonic tc-p50s30 su,sc,ss repair help

                    Originally posted by tw2005
                    good, how easy was that
                    as easy as legoes.

                    i just desovered that it's a 900p panel witch is slightly disapointing to my ocd!

                    im still on the orginal firmwire because i cant find my memory card and they dont suport usb or network update untill a later firmwire.

                    i notice that scaling sometimes sticks off the left a centimeter unless you flicker scaling a couple times.

                    i cant wait to see what the update achives, first i gotta ither pay 10 for a 2gb or borrow one.

                    it also get's stuck when you just alt tab a game but works fine when you close normally.

                    the brightness fluctuation is another glitch im experienceing!

                    the up side this panel has no burn in.

                    i have the setting as low as possible and have been running the 15 min image retention scroll atleast once a day with a constant changing back ground.

                    someone mentions to do this for the 200 hour break in, it's almost been 72 hours now on and off.

                    these panels have something like 100000 hour till half life with equals 4 hours a day for 54 years.

                    these panels are extinct like the dinosaurs so im going to try my best to peserve and educate the future owner on how to do so as well.

                    my next project is a 54 inch that just randomly shuts off, i hope it's just bad caps.

                    the owner is not smart enough to get the exact model number but im prety shure it's a full 1080 froma sear of all 54 incher's

                    i just hope there was no serious neglect to the panel because of how un educated the owner is about tv's so i'm just go take a look and see what condition it's in first.

                    thank you again,
                    sincerely,
                    Bman4
                    Last edited by bman4; 08-28-2015, 06:14 PM.

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                    • tw2005
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                      #30
                      Re: Panasonic tc-p50s30 su,sc,ss repair help

                      Originally posted by bman4
                      as easy as legoes.

                      i just desovered that it's a 900p panel witch is slightly disapointing to my ocd!

                      im still on the orginal firmwire because i cant find my memory card and they dont suport usb or network update untill a later firmwire.

                      i notice that scaling sometimes sticks off the left a centimeter unless you flicker scaling a couple times.

                      i cant wait to see what the update achives, first i gotta ither pay 10 for a 2gb or borrow one.

                      it also get's stuck when you just alt tab a game but works fine when you close normally.

                      the brightness fluctuation is another glitch im experienceing!

                      the up side this panel has no burn in.

                      i have the setting as low as possible and have been running the 15 min image retention scroll atleast once a day with a constant changing back ground.

                      someone mentions to do this for the 200 hour break in, it's almost been 72 hours now on and off.

                      these panels have something like 100000 hour till half life with equals 4 hours a day for 54 years.

                      these panels are extinct like the dinosaurs so im going to try my best to peserve and educate the future owner on how to do so as well.

                      my next project is a 54 inch that just randomly shuts off, i hope it's just bad caps.

                      the owner is not smart enough to get the exact model number but im prety shure it's a full 1080 froma sear of all 54 incher's

                      i just hope there was no serious neglect to the panel because of how un educated the owner is about tv's so i'm just go take a look and see what condition it's in first.

                      thank you again,
                      sincerely,
                      Bman4
                      S30 should be 1080p

                      54" panasonic? random shutdown, could be A board issue, heat affected, you'd have to give us more info in another thread.

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                      • bman4
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                        #31
                        Re: Panasonic tc-p50s30 su,sc,ss repair help

                        yeah i was reading and got Moving Picture Resolution 900 lines mixed up with 1920x1080.

                        i also though it was 900p because it's hard to get this to scale properly.

                        i hope the firmwire update will fix all this

                        the st an gt both have 1080 Moving Picture Resolution!

                        not noticablet the the human eye but i'm like 4 feet away so i might actually notcie!
                        Last edited by bman4; 08-28-2015, 06:53 PM.

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                        • bman4
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                          #32
                          Re: Panasonic tc-p50s30 su,sc,ss repair help

                          Originally posted by bman4
                          yeah i was reading and got Moving Picture Resolution 900 lines mixed up with 1920x1080.

                          i also though it was 900p because it's hard to get this to scale properly.

                          i hope the firmwire update will fix all this

                          the st an gt both have 1080 Moving Picture Resolution!

                          not noticablet the the human eye but i'm like 4 feet away so i might actually notcie!
                          ive been looking for the game mode option on the menu but cant find it, i figured maubee after the update!

                          maybee this will fix my scaling issue ,do you know how to enable game mode on panasonics?
                          Last edited by bman4; 08-28-2015, 06:58 PM.

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                          • tw2005
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                            #33
                            Re: Panasonic tc-p50s30 su,sc,ss repair help

                            Originally posted by bman4
                            ive been looking for the game mode option on the menu but cant find it, i figured maubee after the update!

                            maybee this will fix my scaling issue ,do you know how to enable game mode on panasonics?
                            what does the user guide from the panasonic website say?

                            menu, picture,viewing mode, what's in the list?

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                            • bman4
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                              #34
                              Re: Panasonic tc-p50s30 su,sc,ss repair help

                              Originally posted by bman4
                              ive been looking for the game mode option on the menu but cant find it, i figured maubee after the update!

                              maybee this will fix my scaling issue ,do you know how to enable game mode on panasonics?
                              ive just checked evrything but no game mode like my old samsung.

                              there is picture mode that you can set to game but that just for brightness ect and not like the game mode for no inputlag ect.

                              i just found in hdmi content settings that it was set to picture so i set it to graphics!

                              i also manually set in the graphics property's to over scan.

                              i dont know if it was over scan that helped the 1cm piture shift from the left but it was gone after that so i left it.
                              Last edited by bman4; 08-28-2015, 07:17 PM.

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                              • bman4
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                                #35
                                Re: Panasonic tc-p50s30 su,sc,ss repair help

                                [QUOTE=bman4;585480]ive just checked evrything but no game mode like my old samsung.

                                there is picture mode that you can set to game but that just for brightness ect and not like the game mode for no inputlag ect.

                                i just found in hdmi content settings that it was set to picture so i set it to graphics!

                                i also manually set in the graphics property's to over scan.

                                i dont know if it was over scan that helped the 1cm piture shift from the left but it was gone after that so i left it.[/QUOTE


                                in aspect adjustment the tv has to be set on full with pic size 1 to get it to go to the left perfectly with the scaling is 1842 1036 but it's a quater centimeter more to the right and if i set it to pic size 2 i get the centimeter from the left off with 1920x1080!.

                                im hopeing the fimwire update will fix this ill get back when i ge a sd.

                                i can survive with a quater centimeter of missing pic instead of a 1 cm black line to the left!

                                that enough screwing around for me im going to go game and test out my new setting and enjoy the rest of my friday night.

                                goodnight,
                                bman4

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                                • tw2005
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                                  #36
                                  Re: Panasonic tc-p50s30 su,sc,ss repair help

                                  Originally posted by bman4
                                  ive just checked evrything but no game mode like my old samsung.

                                  there is picture mode that you can set to game but that just for brightness ect and not like the game mode for no inputlag ect.

                                  i just found in hdmi content settings that it was set to picture so i set it to graphics!

                                  i also manually set in the graphics property's to over scan.

                                  i dont know if it was over scan that helped the 1cm piture shift from the left but it was gone after that so i left it.
                                  I honestly don't know what you're on about I'm afraid. too geeky for me. i just fix these and watch them. Too old to game, maybe someone else will have some tips but I don't know of any other "game mode" other than what the manuals says. maybe other branded high TVs have enhancements for gaming.

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                                  • bman4
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                                    #37
                                    Re: Panasonic tc-p50s30 su,sc,ss repair help

                                    Originally posted by tw2005
                                    I honestly don't know what you're on about I'm afraid. too geeky for me. i just fix these and watch them. Too old to game, maybe someone else will have some tips but I don't know of any other "game mode" other than what the manuals says. maybe other branded high TVs have enhancements for gaming.
                                    it okay me ither and ive been trying for a couple day now,thankfully some how i finnally got it to align properly!

                                    ive just learned how to check the hours on this set and it seem low unless the it's hours and not minutes.

                                    it shows Hours : Minutes of operation, so it's gotta be miniutes because it would just say hours.

                                    TIME: 03882 = Hours : Minutes of operation.
                                    COUNT: 000117 = Times the Plasma was powered on.

                                    03882/60= 64 hous of use includeing the 48 hours ive been using it !

                                    this tv isnt even out of the 200 hour break in period whitch i was hopeing because the original owner might not of known how to break it in.


                                    GUIDE ON CHECKIGN HOURS ON VARIOUS PANASONIC PLASMA TV'S
                                    http://www.highdefjunkies.com/plasma...ma-thread.html

                                    sincerely,
                                    bman4
                                    Last edited by bman4; 08-29-2015, 05:59 PM.

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                                    • tom66
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                                      #38
                                      Re: Panasonic tc-p50s30 su,sc,ss repair help

                                      Game mode can sometimes be activated by switching the input label to "PC".
                                      However do note that Panasonic plasmas generally have very low input lag as they do very little image processing.
                                      Most are in the 20-30ms range, only some of the 3D models have longer lag using 3D extraction/interpolation.
                                      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                                      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                                      • tw2005
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                                        #39
                                        Re: Panasonic tc-p50s30 su,sc,ss repair help

                                        Originally posted by bman4
                                        it okay me ither and ive been trying for a couple day now,thankfully some how i finnally got it to align properly!

                                        ive just learned how to check the hours on this set and it seem low unless the it's hours and not minutes.

                                        it shows Hours : Minutes of operation, so it's gotta be miniutes because it would just say hours.

                                        TIME: 03882 = Hours : Minutes of operation.
                                        COUNT: 000117 = Times the Plasma was powered on.

                                        03882/60= 64 hous of use includeing the 48 hours ive been using it !

                                        this tv isnt even out of the 200 hour break in period whitch i was hopeing because the original owner might not of known how to break it in.


                                        GUIDE ON CHECKIGN HOURS ON VARIOUS PANASONIC PLASMA TV'S
                                        http://www.highdefjunkies.com/plasma...ma-thread.html

                                        sincerely,
                                        bman4
                                        that's hours goose, otherwise the average view time is 32mins per cycle, unlikely.

                                        Anyway, plenty of life left in it

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                                        • bman4
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                                          Re: Panasonic tc-p50s30 su,sc,ss repair help

                                          Originally posted by tw2005
                                          that's hours goose, otherwise the average view time is 32mins per cycle, unlikely.

                                          Anyway, plenty of life left in it
                                          it wasent listed that way with the number i just tried making it quicker to read.

                                          are you shure why dose it say TIME =hours:!Minutes of operation!

                                          ive also been experince some green blotches whitch they say happens untill the 200 hours mark

                                          still haveing trouble with it aligning up since i unpluged it and still havent updated the firmwire.

                                          TIME = Hours : Minutes of operation.
                                          COUNT = Times the Plasma was powered on.



                                          time 03882
                                          count 000117
                                          Last edited by bman4; 08-29-2015, 07:09 PM.

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