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  • layad
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Nov 2011
    • 250

    #1

    17ips20 diagnosing

    hello guys
    i have led tv which has 17ips20 psu , the tv is completely dead , no lights at all, i have checked the all the diodes, they are all ok, all fuses are ok, anyone knows how to test Q301? the tv is jvc le-40dg51j
    thanks
  • zwarder
    Member
    • Oct 2013
    • 45
    • United Kingdom

    #2
    Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

    There are kits available to repair

    http://www.ohmsupplies.co.uk/KIT377-...D13-REPAIR-KIT

    Probably pick up a second hand board cheaper though

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    • ReeceyBurger123
      Never Give Up !
      • May 2014
      • 7325
      • Britain

      #3
      Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

      Normally there is a leaky not shorted diode right next to the filter caps. Remove it out of circuit and check it for continuity in both directions common issue on these boards. If the transistors fail they will blow the fuse.
      Last edited by ReeceyBurger123; 10-22-2015, 04:11 AM.
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      • crt man
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 106
        • England

        #4
        Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

        Sorry Reece for hacking the thread,but I got a Hitachi
        40 inch Led from somebody's garden with the above PSU.
        Which is the leaky diode you mention,as there is no shorts
        on the FET's and the fuse is fine.

        I cannot see the diode you mention or I'am I just going
        senile with old age.

        Thanks Alan.

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        • vinceroger69
          Badcaps Legend
          • Mar 2012
          • 6714
          • uk

          #5
          Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

          reece has a good video about this board not sure if you have saw it
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7vnoqcTbQM&app=desktop

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          • crt man
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2013
            • 106
            • England

            #6
            Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

            Hi
            Yes I have seen it but this has not blown up,
            and the are no obvious shorts.
            I assume it is the leaky diode he is talking
            about in P3

            Alan
            Last edited by crt man; 06-30-2016, 03:23 AM. Reason: Addition to post

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            • vinceroger69
              Badcaps Legend
              • Mar 2012
              • 6714
              • uk

              #7
              Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

              im sure reece will reply when he sees this thread and advise you on the diode location

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              • ReeceyBurger123
                Never Give Up !
                • May 2014
                • 7325
                • Britain

                #8
                Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

                Cheers Vince, also what is the set doing totally dead ? You should check ehat voltage you have on the secondary diodes first see if you have 12v at the lower down ones then 12-128v at the ones near the top. If so then psu is good.
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                • Andrew F. Ali
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 2450
                  • Trinidad & Tobago

                  #9
                  Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

                  If I may inject here....I have found that analogue meters detect 'leaky' semi-conductors more readily than digital meters. I have a trusty analogue on my workbench for testing semis

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                  • crt man
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 106
                    • England

                    #10
                    Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

                    Originally posted by ReeceyBurger123
                    Cheers Vince, also what is the set doing totally dead ?
                    Sorry Reece, I was told set did not work,
                    as it had been standing in the rain I did not plug it in.
                    Just plugged it in and led changes from red to blue
                    but screen is black and no sound, I do not have the
                    remote so it could be on an external source.

                    Alan

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                    • ReeceyBurger123
                      Never Give Up !
                      • May 2014
                      • 7325
                      • Britain

                      #11
                      Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

                      Well the Psu is good then, you have an Led failure probably. Watch this video:

                      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RxwdC7V5Ue0

                      Please verify if you have backlight or not, if you do not check the Led voltage, if that is good take the panel apart and check the backlights as shown in the video. Be very carefull with the Lcd screen and its attached Pcb they are easy to break and wont be fixable if so. Keep us updated
                      Last edited by ReeceyBurger123; 06-30-2016, 07:06 AM.
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                      • crt man
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 106
                        • England

                        #12
                        Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

                        Please verify if you have backlight or not, if you do not check the Led voltage,
                        Reece, the backlight is out i hooked up a free view recorder
                        and it switched to the scart.
                        There was sound, and when turned to the window
                        an image was visible

                        The voltage for the LED's was 119 on positive and 11
                        on negative.
                        I have bought some Nos LED's from Ebay just waiting for
                        them to arrive

                        Alan.
                        Last edited by crt man; 07-02-2016, 06:24 AM.

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                        • ReeceyBurger123
                          Never Give Up !
                          • May 2014
                          • 7325
                          • Britain

                          #13
                          Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

                          Wait on start up does the voltage go to about 170 or so then go down ? If it stays at 119 your Psu/driver is faulty.
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                          • crt man
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 106
                            • England

                            #14
                            Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

                            At start up the power goes to 190 before
                            dropping back to 119 the negative goes
                            to 24 then drops back to 11

                            On standby the voltage on the positive drops
                            to zero and the negative stays at 11

                            Alan.

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                            • ReeceyBurger123
                              Never Give Up !
                              • May 2014
                              • 7325
                              • Britain

                              #15
                              Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

                              Yes then you have a backlight fault then, the Psu is fine if it goes up then drops. Take the panel apart and test the Leds as shown in the video.
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                              • Leslie W
                                New Member
                                • Jul 2016
                                • 7
                                • UK

                                #16
                                Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

                                Hi Guys

                                Hitachi 42hxt12u with Vestel 17ips20 23145840 problem.

                                TV made a crack noise and now no picture. No backlights but I can see menu with torch.

                                Audio working and can change channels and sources.

                                LED output from PSU is 117.7 return 8.3 when turned on - it does not go to 170 or 190

                                Is this a psu or a led problem? Why arent the leds lighting if I have 118 volts for the 36 x 3.3v vor the leds?

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                                • ReeceyBurger123
                                  Never Give Up !
                                  • May 2014
                                  • 7325
                                  • Britain

                                  #17
                                  Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

                                  Unplug the Leds and check again, use chassis ground. Sounds like a Psu problem to me if it stays low. Also thats not enough for the Leds that voltage its enough to complete the chain but only light them dim.
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                                  • Leslie W
                                    New Member
                                    • Jul 2016
                                    • 7
                                    • UK

                                    #18
                                    Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

                                    Hi Reece

                                    Thanks for your help, please bear with me I am just a beginner.

                                    Why does the led voltage start at 160+ then go to 118 if 36 x 3.3 leds = 118 volts ?

                                    with the leds unplugged voltage is 117.6 and zero on return

                                    Les

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                                    • ReeceyBurger123
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                                      • May 2014
                                      • 7325
                                      • Britain

                                      #19
                                      Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

                                      Its part of the Pwm circuit, starts at higher voltage to start the strings but low current, the it lowers and increases the current to maintain proper brightness whilst the Pwm is working. Your Psu is faulty in your case.
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                                      • Leslie W
                                        New Member
                                        • Jul 2016
                                        • 7
                                        • UK

                                        #20
                                        Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

                                        Thanks Reece

                                        Just ordered one from ebay.

                                        If it works I could send you the old one.

                                        Cheers

                                        Les

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