Sanyo DP46849 Backlight Issues

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  • Thorsbolt
    Member
    • Mar 2015
    • 22
    • USA

    #1

    Sanyo DP46849 Backlight Issues

    Picked up a 46" Sanyo from a needy family. Works great for 20 mins or so, then backlight goes out. Still have sound. Upon restarting picture shows back up for 5 min then screen cuts out. If I let it cool down it will stay on longer. Could this be CFL's wearing out and drawing to much juice when warmed up. Let me know where to start and I'll post any pictures requested.
  • newtothis
    Badcaps Legend
    • Mar 2013
    • 1556
    • england

    #2
    Re: Sanyo DP46849 Backlight Issues

    Pictures of all boards and overall layout, Get a clear picture of the labels next to the connector going from the PSU to main.

    We will be going through some voltage readings with a DMM to see what is dropping out when you lose the backlights

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    • Thorsbolt
      Member
      • Mar 2015
      • 22
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Sanyo DP46849 Backlight Issues

      Ok, I work till 10:00, but took some pictures before I left. I'll take it apart more tonight and get more.
      Attached Files

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      • Thorsbolt
        Member
        • Mar 2015
        • 22
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Sanyo DP46849 Backlight Issues

        Its almost impossible to test the invertor board on this unit. The Power Supply and Video Boards bolt to the back panel and the Invertor Board bolts under the panel. Testing while powered up is going to be a task. Taking new pictures now, because I realized that some were terrible.
        Last edited by Thorsbolt; 05-26-2015, 09:24 AM.

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        • newtothis
          Badcaps Legend
          • Mar 2013
          • 1556
          • england

          #5
          Re: Sanyo DP46849 Backlight Issues

          Ignore the invertors for now, We need to check voltages on the PSU first.

          Meter set to 20VDC can you test the BL_ON pin when the backlights fail.

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          • stj
            Great Sage 齊天大聖
            • Dec 2009
            • 30917
            • Albion

            #6
            Re: Sanyo DP46849 Backlight Issues

            check for cracked soldering on the power and invertor boards.

            it sounds thermal and that usually ends up being fractured soldering.

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            • jetadm123
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              • Feb 2010
              • 2169

              #7
              Re: Sanyo DP46849 Backlight Issues

              As mention by stj, it appears to be a thermal problem. Try heating up each board with a hair dryer while the tv is running to see if you can accelerate the shutdown process. This will hopefully help you narrow the board that's causing the problem.

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              • Thorsbolt
                Member
                • Mar 2015
                • 22
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Sanyo DP46849 Backlight Issues

                I agree with the Thermal Diag. While working the BL On reads 3.27V DC.
                Failed it reads the same.

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                • newtothis
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 1556
                  • england

                  #9
                  Re: Sanyo DP46849 Backlight Issues

                  Yeah seems to be thermal

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                  • Thorsbolt
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                    • Mar 2015
                    • 22
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Sanyo DP46849 Backlight Issues

                    I'm gonna hit the power supply and video boards with a hair dryer tonight, but the invertor board is buried. Is there a good way to ohm test it?

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                    • Thorsbolt
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                      • Mar 2015
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                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Sanyo DP46849 Backlight Issues

                      Better pics to help diag.
                      Attached Files

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                      • Thorsbolt
                        Member
                        • Mar 2015
                        • 22
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Sanyo DP46849 Backlight Issues

                        These 3 are of the back of the power board. I see no compromised solder but I did see too slightly discolored spots.
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                        • stj
                          Great Sage 齊天大聖
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 30917
                          • Albion

                          #13
                          Re: Sanyo DP46849 Backlight Issues

                          some bad joints there.

                          look for faint rings around the joints like a halo

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                          • Thorsbolt
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                            • Mar 2015
                            • 22
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                            #14
                            Re: Sanyo DP46849 Backlight Issues

                            Well I can see alot of bad solder joints, what I also see is what look like something was spilled on the board. What should I use to clean it and should I focus on fixing all the solder joints or getting a new board?
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                            • stj
                              Great Sage 齊天大聖
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 30917
                              • Albion

                              #15
                              Re: Sanyo DP46849 Backlight Issues

                              fix the joints and then clean the flux off with IPA

                              fixing joints costs nothing, so it's always worth a try.

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                              • Thorsbolt
                                Member
                                • Mar 2015
                                • 22
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: Sanyo DP46849 Backlight Issues

                                I fixed some solder and cleaned the board. TV still shuts down, but I am able to access the invertor now when it's powered up. Any further testing?

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                                • Thorsbolt
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                                  • Mar 2015
                                  • 22
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: Sanyo DP46849 Backlight Issues

                                  Also the three steel bars get exceptionally hot on the back of the power board. Like they'd burn you. I'm pretty sure the for heat dissipation. But should they get that hot?

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                                  • Thorsbolt
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                                    • Mar 2015
                                    • 22
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Sanyo DP46849 Backlight Issues

                                    I ran a very low CFM fan over different boards to keep them cool and found the Main Board beneath a heat shield is getting to hot and shutting it down. It seams a finned block of metal had afoam strip on it to protect the board... It was holding heat. I removed it and the TV stays on. I'm still monitoring it. I will send a picture.

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