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  • gates
    New Member
    • May 2015
    • 9
    • USA

    #1

    Sony KDL-42ex440 went black and slight pop from speaker

    Last night my wife and I were watching tv and all of a sudden it turned off. We heard a slight pop from the speaker (residual sound going through speaker). Tried the remote and nothing. I unplugged tv and plugged back in, the power led turned green then pop it shut off again in three seconds (no back light).

    I removed the back of the tv and checked out the power board and everything looked good, no bad caps and the voltages all checked out under power. When I unplugged the cable going to main board the led powered up, the remote allowed me to turn it on off standby. Plugged it back in and off it went again ith no controller.

    Unplugged the Lvds cable everything went back to normal with the backlight and remote operation. So I am thinking bad T-con board.

    Thoughts?

    Thank you advance

    Corey.
  • newtothis
    Badcaps Legend
    • Mar 2013
    • 1556
    • england

    #2
    Re: Sony KDL-42ex440 went black and slight pop from speaker

    Pictures of your boards and overall layout.

    Voltage at Tcon fuse?

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    • gates
      New Member
      • May 2015
      • 9
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Sony KDL-42ex440 went black and slight pop from speaker

      Here is the layout and close up of the tcon board.

      I check the fuse and could only get a slight voltage across when i plug it in for a second then it goes to zero



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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Sony KDL-42ex440 went black and slight pop from speaker

        Connect the LVDS cable back in place but leave the two flat white cables to the LCD out and see if the TV will turn on (there will be no pictures of course).
        Also check the DCV of both ends of the fuse with ref to the chassis.
        Last edited by budm; 05-18-2015, 09:34 PM.
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • sugar_ray
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 121
          • Canada

          #5
          Re: Sony KDL-42ex440 went black and slight pop from speaker

          My money's on the PS board!! But dig a little deeper before replacement

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          • gates
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            • May 2015
            • 9
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Sony KDL-42ex440 went black and slight pop from speaker

            Lvds plugged in only and the green power light goes for three or so seconds the it shuts off. Residual pop sound through speaker.

            I only get like two or so seconds to check voltage before it all shuts down.

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Sony KDL-42ex440 went black and slight pop from speaker

              So far I cannot find any service manual for this model.
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Sony KDL-42ex440 went black and slight pop from speaker

                http://assets.shopjimmy.com/media/ca...255-11-top.jpg

                The white connector on the power supply board that goes to the main board has label for each pin that you need to take the DCV readings (no LVDS cable connected).
                Report the readings with the name of the pin (names of the pins MUST be included) when TV is off and when power switch is activated so we can see what is missing.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • gates
                  New Member
                  • May 2015
                  • 9
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Sony KDL-42ex440 went black and slight pop from speaker

                  Power board with cable between it and main board unplugged. Plugged in power turned off.
                  Ac off det = 3.3 Vdc
                  Vcc 3.3 stby = 3.3 vdc
                  Everything else is zero

                  Lvds unplugged but main board plugged in with power board.
                  Standby (red light on) / power on (green led)
                  Panel power = 0v / 12.5v
                  Panel power = 0v / 12.5v
                  Audio 12v = .35v / 12.5v
                  Audio 12v = .35v / 12.5v
                  Vcc 12v = .35v / 12.5v
                  Vcc 12v = .35v / 12.5v
                  Ground = 0 / 0
                  Ground = 0 / 0

                  Ground = 0 / 0
                  Lcd pwr = 0 / 3.2
                  BLk err = 0 / 0
                  Bl central = 0 / 1.65
                  Blkt en = 0 / 2.92
                  Ac off = 3.3 / 3.05
                  Power onoff = 0 / 3.28
                  Vcc 3.3 stby = 3.3 / 3.3

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Sony KDL-42ex440 went black and slight pop from speaker

                    "Lvds unplugged but main board plugged in with power board."
                    OK, they look normal when the LVDS is not connected.
                    So what do you get when the LVDS cable is also connected?
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • gates
                      New Member
                      • May 2015
                      • 9
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Sony KDL-42ex440 went black and slight pop from speaker

                      That is the problem it shuts off in two or three seconds. With the lvds cable plugged in and I plug the TV into an outlet the green power led is lit up and two seconds later it goes off and no power anywhere (also hear a residual sound through the speaker when the led goes off). No red led and no light coming from the led screen.

                      Any ideas on how to test this? Is there part of the ribbon cable I could test?

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Sony KDL-42ex440 went black and slight pop from speaker

                        I have a feeling that something in the T-CON board is loading down the PANEL_POWER.
                        You may be able to remove just the terminals for the PANEL_POWER and see what will happen.
                        We also verify that the LCD panel itself is not loading down the T-CON because you have already try running the TV with LVDS connected but the ribbon cables between the T-CON and the panel disconnected and it still goes into shutdown.

                        This looks like your T-CON board:
                        http://www.shopjimmy.com/sony-1-895-...-con-board.htm
                        Last edited by budm; 05-19-2015, 10:13 PM.
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • gates
                          New Member
                          • May 2015
                          • 9
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: Sony KDL-42ex440 went black and slight pop from speaker

                          New tcon board then correct?

                          And yes that image is the tcon board I have.

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: Sony KDL-42ex440 went black and slight pop from speaker

                            Yes.
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                            Comment

                            • newtothis
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 1556
                              • england

                              #15
                              Re: Sony KDL-42ex440 went black and slight pop from speaker

                              Originally posted by sugar_ray
                              My money's on the PS board!! But dig a little deeper before replacement
                              How much money were we talking here? :p lol

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                              • vinceroger69
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Mar 2012
                                • 6714
                                • uk

                                #16
                                Re: Sony KDL-42ex440 went black and slight pop from speaker

                                as sj is out of stock maybe this one?
                                http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sony-KDL42...item20f4adf93d

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                                • ReeceyBurger123
                                  Never Give Up !
                                  • May 2014
                                  • 7325
                                  • Britain

                                  #17
                                  Re: Sony KDL-42ex440 went black and slight pop from speaker

                                  Originally posted by newtothis
                                  How much money were we talking here? :p lol
                                  Lol
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                                  • gates
                                    New Member
                                    • May 2015
                                    • 9
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: Sony KDL-42ex440 went black and slight pop from speaker

                                    Got replacement tcom board and we are back in action. Thank you everyone for the help.

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                                    • budm
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2010
                                      • 40746
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: Sony KDL-42ex440 went black and slight pop from speaker

                                      Thanks for the repair follow-up.
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                      Comment

                                      • fatcatbaz
                                        New Member
                                        • Mar 2015
                                        • 7
                                        • United Kingdom

                                        #20
                                        Re: Sony KDL-42ex440 went black and slight pop from speaker

                                        Just out of interest, how much did it cost for the replacement Tcon board?

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