New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

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  • lookimback
    Badcaps Legend
    • Aug 2013
    • 1489
    • USA

    #141
    Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

    Decided to fix this one more time. I'm going to turn the temp down to 350°C and see if it will last. It's obviously a terrible design if you can turn it up so high that the element will burn out. I'm wondering if they screwed up on the sensor circuit and it's not reading right. I should probably get a tip temp tester and then, if it isn't reading accurately, I could probably modify it.
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    • alex987
      Member
      • May 2015
      • 11
      • italy

      #142
      Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

      Mine is still working...

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      • tibimakai
        Badcaps Legend
        • Jan 2012
        • 3680
        • USA

        #143
        Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

        Maybe there is no sensor circuitry at all. (like in the fake phones, the software is there though, to show changing numbers)

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        • lookimback
          Badcaps Legend
          • Aug 2013
          • 1489
          • USA

          #144
          Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

          I got it heating again, but no vacuum. I forgot about the cracked pump housing. Can't find a replacement. Might have to modify it and add an external pump.
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          • stj
            Great Sage 齊天大聖
            • Dec 2009
            • 30979
            • Albion

            #145
            Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

            patch the housing with rubber compound - you have nothing to lose trying.

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            • lookimback
              Badcaps Legend
              • Aug 2013
              • 1489
              • USA

              #146
              Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

              I tried using silicone adhesive. It might work. Too bad I don't have a 3D printer. The thing that really pisses me off about this is that the typical repair parts which a person might need are not available. I'm still going to buy the Hakko one, but right now I have other obligations. I'll coat the entire thing in silicone if I have to.
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              • stj
                Great Sage 齊天大聖
                • Dec 2009
                • 30979
                • Albion

                #147
                Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

                can you post a foto?
                btw if this the the clone type with a pump in the base, i'v seen spare pumps sold cheap.

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                • lookimback
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 1489
                  • USA

                  #148
                  Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

                  I'll do a teardown this weekend and post pics.
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                  • alex987
                    Member
                    • May 2015
                    • 11
                    • italy

                    #149
                    Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

                    Originally posted by lookimback
                    I got it heating again, but no vacuum. I forgot about the cracked pump housing. Can't find a replacement. Might have to modify it and add an external pump.
                    No wait!
                    Contact Aoyue support via skype:
                    http://www.aoyue.com/en/contact/

                    they have ALL replacements for this unit (not only what you can see on their website!)

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                    • lookimback
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 1489
                      • USA

                      #150
                      Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

                      Here's the pics of the pump. I don't have time to do the full tear down like I wanted to.
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                      • lookimback
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 1489
                        • USA

                        #151
                        Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

                        Originally posted by alex987
                        No wait!
                        Contact Aoyue support via skype:
                        http://www.aoyue.com/en/contact/

                        they have ALL replacements for this unit (not only what you can see on their website!)
                        Thanks Alex. I'll contact them tomorrow and see if they have it. Although it would have been cool to mod it into a station instead of a portable. Easy too. There's already a port on the bottom of the handle for the vacuum hose, and if the 24v for the motor comes from the power unit (I think they do), it would just be a matter of splicing the motor wires in the unit, and cutting them in the power box to connect to the motor. Unless the 24v is rectified and filtered in the gun, then it would require either making a board to do that, or adding a pair of wires from the gun to the new external pump. Either way, still easy.
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                        • alex987
                          Member
                          • May 2015
                          • 11
                          • italy

                          #152
                          Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

                          Originally posted by lookimback
                          ... Unless the 24v is rectified and filtered in the gun...
                          If I well remember, the external power unit carries 220V (for the heating element) and 9V (for the pump), both AC.

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                          • lookimback
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 1489
                            • USA

                            #153
                            Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

                            Originally posted by alex987
                            If I well remember, the external power unit carries 220V (for the heating element) and 9V (for the pump), both AC.
                            You guys have 220v mains though right? We have 120v.
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                            • alex987
                              Member
                              • May 2015
                              • 11
                              • italy

                              #154
                              Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

                              TIP:
                              Before starting a desoldering job, ALWAYS wet the yellow filter pad with water, in order to allows efficient air passage and filter action (filter pad must become "soft").
                              You should repeat this often, if your desoldering session takes too long.

                              >>If you don't do this, you risk to strain the motor, damaging it<<

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                              • lookimback
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Aug 2013
                                • 1489
                                • USA

                                #155
                                Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

                                I didn't think you were supposed to wet it. I'd tried it once and it seemed to kill the vacuum. Of course, this also has the cracked pump, so it probably didn't have much vacuum to begin with.

                                I emailed Aoyue about it. They sent me an email the next day asking for more information. They want the serial number, pictures, and name of the vendor I purchased it from. I'll get all of that for them this weekend. It would be great if I could get them to send it for free. I'm definitely going to let them know I've already had to replace the heating element twice.
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                                • Agent24
                                  I see dead caps
                                  • Oct 2007
                                  • 4950
                                  • New Zealand

                                  #156
                                  Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

                                  Originally posted by lookimback
                                  I emailed Aoyue about it. They sent me an email the next day asking for more information. They want the serial number, pictures, and name of the vendor I purchased it from.
                                  That's more than I would have expected. I hope they sort it out.
                                  "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                                  -David VanHorn

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                                  • alex987
                                    Member
                                    • May 2015
                                    • 11
                                    • italy

                                    #157
                                    Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

                                    Originally posted by lookimback
                                    I didn't think you were supposed to wet it. I'd tried it once and it seemed to kill the vacuum. Of course, this also has the cracked pump, so it probably didn't have much vacuum to begin with.
                                    I read this in Aoyue 474A+ manual (very strange they forgot to write it in 8800 manual, too).

                                    I hope Aoyue will replace your unit for free. In this case, thumbs up for Aoyue.

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