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  • ReeceyBurger123
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    • May 2014
    • 7325
    • Britain

    #1

    17mb62 Turning its self on :O

    Hello, I have a small 19" luxor vestel built tv that seems to turn its self on in the early hours in morning when its cold. Just wandering where to check is it software or hardware, will take photos on may even set a camera up in the night to film it lol ?
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  • vinceroger69
    Badcaps Legend
    • Mar 2012
    • 6714
    • uk

    #2
    Re: 17mb62 Turning its self on :O

    I had a toshiba set once doing this it turned out it was doing freeview update scans during the early hours i turned this setting to off it never happened again.

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    • newtothis
      Badcaps Legend
      • Mar 2013
      • 1556
      • england

      #3
      Re: 17mb62 Turning its self on :O

      The issue = It's Vestel! LOL

      Set goes cold, ESR of a cap goes low enough and turns set on maybe?

      Had a look at the boards yet?

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      • ReeceyBurger123
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        • May 2014
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        #4
        Re: 17mb62 Turning its self on :O

        I was think that as well esr goes up with cold temps, it is in the coldest room in the house it uses craps any way. Mares well switch it off at the wall lol the stupid thing
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        • CapLeaker
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          • Dec 2014
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          • Canada

          #5
          Re: 17mb62 Turning its self on :O

          Originally posted by newtothis
          The issue = It's Vestel! LOL

          Set goes cold, ESR of a cap goes low enough and turns set on maybe?

          Had a look at the boards yet?
          It's the other way around. Heat makes the ESR go low. Cold makes the ESR go higher.

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          • newtothis
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            • Mar 2013
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            • england

            #6
            Re: 17mb62 Turning its self on :O

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            • CapLeaker
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              • Dec 2014
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              #7
              Re: 17mb62 Turning its self on :O

              You shall be forgiven...

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              • ReeceyBurger123
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                • May 2014
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                #8
                Re: 17mb62 Turning its self on :O

                Decided im going to recap the psu, as it has samxon km prone to failure with out physical signs if not recap the main board hopefully stop this thing from turning on at 3am lol scares the crap out of everyone becuase the volume always starts boombing loud.
                Last edited by ReeceyBurger123; 02-27-2015, 04:54 PM.
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                • CapLeaker
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                  #9
                  Re: 17mb62 Turning its self on :O

                  Think about it for a minute. The PSU needs a PSon signal from the main board in order to turn on. The PSU can't turn on without that PSon signal and that comes from the main board. Plus I would disable the IR port first and see if that helps any. Put some black electrical tape over it etc.
                  Last edited by CapLeaker; 02-27-2015, 05:24 PM.

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                  • ReeceyBurger123
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                    • May 2014
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                    #10
                    Re: 17mb62 Turning its self on :O

                    Originally posted by CapLeaker
                    Think about it for a minute. The PSU needs a PSon signal from the main board in order to turn on. The PSU can't turn on without that PSon signal and that comes from the main board. Plus I would disable the IR port first and see if that helps any. Put some black electrical tape over it etc.
                    Will do cheers got to love vestel sets
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                    • vinceroger69
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                      • Mar 2012
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                      #11
                      Re: 17mb62 Turning its self on :O

                      does it alaways turn on about 3am? whats the full model number of the set?

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                      • ReeceyBurger123
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                        #12
                        Re: 17mb62 Turning its self on :O

                        Originally posted by vinceroger69
                        does it alaways turn on about 3am? whats the full model number of the set?
                        Yes is always when the house is at its coldest thats why I think caps.
                        I will open up the set and take photos, I need to get cap values anyway.
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                        • Alastair E
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                          • Mar 2013
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                          #13
                          Re: 17mb62 Turning its self on :O

                          Freeview updates taking place at 3.00am....

                          I'll bet its 3.00am its happening......

                          Turn off the update feature in the Settings menu.

                          LOTS of sets do it, you'll hear the relay in the PSU operate then 1 minute later again. I have a Pioneer that does it but the set remains dark during the process.

                          Vestel obviously didn't bother making sure the set remained dark--so it fires up fully!
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                          • ReeceyBurger123
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                            #14
                            Re: 17mb62 Turning its self on :O

                            Originally posted by Alastair E
                            Freeview updates taking place at 3.00am....

                            I'll bet its 3.00am its happening......

                            Turn off the update feature in the Settings menu.

                            LOTS of sets do it, you'll hear the relay in the PSU operate then 1 minute later again. I have a Pioneer that does it but the set remains dark during the process.

                            Vestel obviously didn't bother making sure the set remained dark--so it fires up fully!
                            I think your on to something I always thought it was 5am will check now thank you
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                            • vinceroger69
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                              #15
                              Re: 17mb62 Turning its self on :O

                              I did mention this also in post 2 i have i have saw this a couple of times now my toshiba set defently turned fully on during the early hours and im sure the other was a alba? both vestel main boards.

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                              • JeffJ
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                                • Apr 2012
                                • 189
                                • Canada

                                #16
                                Re: 17mb62 Turning its self on :O

                                I had a woman drop off an almost brand new Toshiba TV at my work for recycling. she said she didn't want it she bought a new one. I said well I bet I can fix it for you at a low cost. She said nope, I want it out of my house it's haunted.... Turns out it turned it self on at exactly 3 AM as well. I just factory reset it. and it seems fine though. Still have it in my shop.

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                                • ReeceyBurger123
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                                  #17
                                  Re: 17mb62 Turning its self on :O

                                  Fixed the issue, simply by turning the freeview update off I also recapped the psu as well thanks for the help guys I alway thought that freeview update was at 5am. Anyhow turning it off has solved the issue the tv hasn't done it since
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                                  • valvelover
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                                    • Nov 2017
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                                    #18
                                    Re: 17mb62 Turning its self on :O

                                    my samsung plasma used to do this ! used to freak me out ! you cant sleep so you go down to make a brew, your sitting in the dark.........and the tv turns on ! screen just glows............then turns off again ??? thought it was the other side trying to contact me ! ............but no.......it was the freeview updates !

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