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  • Michale32086
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    Panasonic TC-P54 Doornail Dead

    Seems to be my week for Panasonics...

    I just got in yesterday a nice Panny TC-P54 Unfortunately, I left the back at the shop (working from home today) and don't have the rest of the Model Number..

    This unit does not power up. Does not light up. Completely dead.. The only thing I notice is a slight power hum in the vicinity of the Power PCB when I plug in the unit..

    Right off the bat, I noticed some differences from the last Panasonic.. There doesn't appear to be any VS or VA connections. Further, no voltage label on the back of the display. There IS a VSUS TP and a VDA TP on the power PCB, but that is all I can find.. There are a few TP posts scattered through out the Power PCB, but only the VSUS and the VDA are marked. There is 0V on the VSUS and VDA points.. The only voltage I have confirmed is the incoming voltage of 120v AC...

    I grabbed some manuals from Toms Place (thanx Tom! ) but none of them match this set exactly...

    Any thoughts on my next step?
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  • tw2005
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    Re: Panasonic TC-P54 Doornail Dead

    most likely Tc-P54g25. remove the SC2 and sc20 leads and see if any changes

    don't reconnect after shutdown, if it powers up. vsus can be measured at either p2,sc2 ss11 or p11, 203v or so i think. get use to no labels from 2010 on.
    Last edited by tw2005; 02-16-2015, 05:56 AM.

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    • Michale32086
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      Re: Panasonic TC-P54 Doornail Dead

      Originally posted by tw2005
      most likely Tc-P54g25. remove the SC2 and sc20 leads and see if any changes

      don't reconnect after shutdown, if it powers up. vsus can be measured at either p2,sc2 ss11 or p11, 203v or so i think.
      Disconnected SC2 and SC20 (pic)

      Still dead...


      Originally posted by tw2005
      get use to no labels from 2010 on.
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      • tw2005
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        Re: Panasonic TC-P54 Doornail Dead

        Originally posted by Michale32086
        Disconnected SC2 and SC20 (pic)

        Still dead...




        I was jumping the gun a bit. sounding like A board but i'd check across sc2 for short as these have a habit of blowing the SC shorting Vsus. A7 pin 1 is 5v stb, any life there?

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        • tw2005
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          manual


          2 downloads / day with no login

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          • Michale32086
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            Originally posted by tw2005
            manual


            2 downloads / day with no login
            Yep, found it. Google?? Amazing.

            Lemme check the points you mentioned..

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            • Michale32086
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              Re: Panasonic TC-P54 Doornail Dead

              Originally posted by tw2005
              I was jumping the gun a bit. sounding like A board but i'd check across sc2 for short as these have a habit of blowing the SC shorting Vsus. A7 pin 1 is 5v stb, any life there?
              No short on SC2..

              Pin 1 A7 shows 5v

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              • tw2005
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                Originally posted by Michale32086
                Yep, found it. Google?? Amazing.

                Lemme check the points you mentioned..

                .
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                • tw2005
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                  p59 is probably a good place to start. Know any history on the TV as to what happened

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                  • tw2005
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                    so basically, plug in to power relay clicks, if no then check 5v, you have that, then disconnect k board in case it's shorted, if still dead = A board

                    I guess check the SD slot for foreign object shorting board(coin)

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                    • Michale32086
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                      Re: Panasonic TC-P54 Doornail Dead

                      Originally posted by tw2005
                      p59 is probably a good place to start. Know any history on the TV as to what happened
                      Nope.. Came in blind to the shop... Guy wanted it fixed, I estimated about $150.. He said scroo that, so I gave him $50 for it..

                      I checked the manual you posted.. Awesome, thanks!

                      I checked for a short on the P15V line. All the connectors pulled and still dead.. But I noticed that the page (Slide 10) said P25

                      If a short is found on the P15V line, remove connectors P6, P11, P25, and SC20 one at a time to determine which board is defective.

                      The P25 Connector is empty. No cable.

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                      • Michale32086
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                        Originally posted by tw2005
                        so basically, plug in to power relay clicks, if no then check 5v, you have that, then disconnect k board in case it's shorted, if still dead = A board

                        I guess check the SD slot for foreign object shorting board(coin)
                        Nothing in the SD card slot... That woulda been kewl if that's all it was..

                        Disconnected all P connectors.. Plug in, nothing happens. No relay click no nuttin...

                        Bad Power PCB??

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                        • Michale32086
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                          Going thru the manual you posted for Detailed Troubleshooting for Shorts..

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                          • tw2005
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                            Originally posted by Michale32086
                            Nope.. Came in blind to the shop... Guy wanted it fixed, I estimated about $150.. He said scroo that, so I gave him $50 for it..

                            I checked the manual you posted.. Awesome, thanks!

                            I checked for a short on the P15V line. All the connectors pulled and still dead.. But I noticed that the page (Slide 10) said P25

                            If a short is found on the P15V line, remove connectors P6, P11, P25, and SC20 one at a time to determine which board is defective.

                            The P25 Connector is empty. No cable.
                            generic guide, I think P6, P25 no use labelled in the manual. But did you find a short? if not then all that is meaningless. It's the F15v that needs to be activated for the relays to click, the 5vstb is used to produce 1.2v, stb3.3v which is also used to power the standby LED. So 5v stb but no front LED and no relay clicks is A board. You may find one for $150

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                            • tw2005
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                              should be either TNPH0834AF or TNPH0834AD depending on whether it's a G20 or G25.

                              I guess you have no other 2010 fhd A boards laying around, any size TV would do.

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                              • Michale32086
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                                According to the Troubleshooting (Slide 12), if there is no short to ground on pin 1 of P2 and no short to ground on pin 1 of SC2, then replace the SS board..

                                Am I reading that right??

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                                • Michale32086
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                                  Originally posted by tw2005
                                  should be either TNPH0834AF or TNPH0834AD depending on whether it's a G20 or G25.

                                  I guess you have no other 2010 fhd A boards laying around, any size TV would do.
                                  I looked yesterday when this first came in. No compatible boards on my boards shelves.. I might have some compatible units awaiting dis-assembly in the sheds...

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                                  • tw2005
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                                    Originally posted by Michale32086
                                    According to the Troubleshooting (Slide 12), if there is no short to ground on pin 1 of P2 and no short to ground on pin 1 of SC2, then replace the SS board..

                                    Am I reading that right??
                                    you're reading it right but not using it right. those are procedures for when you have found shorts i.e. you have a shorted line but now need to drill down to what board.

                                    That brings me back to what i said earlier, have you found shorts?

                                    The Tv is dead,has 5v stdby, no LED, no relay clicks from what i'm reading.

                                    A board

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                                    • tw2005
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                                      Originally posted by Michale32086
                                      I looked yesterday when this first came in. No compatible boards on my boards shelves.. I might have some compatible units awaiting dis-assembly in the sheds...
                                      any g20/g25 should be able to plug in and at least see if the stdby led and relay clicks, could turn it on but picture will be wrong but at least confirms A board

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                                      • Michale32086
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                                        Originally posted by tw2005
                                        you're reading it right but not using it right. those are procedures for when you have found shorts i.e. you have a shorted line but now need to drill down to what board.

                                        That brings me back to what i said earlier, have you found shorts?
                                        Nope.. No shorts on P2 or or P11 or SC2.


                                        Originally posted by tw2005
                                        The Tv is dead,has 5v stdby, no LED, no relay clicks from what i'm reading.

                                        A board
                                        Yep, dead TV, 5v STBY is present, no relay clicks, no LED...

                                        A Board it is...

                                        Not the best news in the world, but at least it IS news.

                                        Thanx

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