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  • mrmazda
    MrMazda
    • Sep 2013
    • 115
    • USA

    #1

    ancient Montereys with leaky obsoletes, datasheet shortage

    I have accumulated approximately 9 of various models of Chaparral Monterey satellite receivers that incorporate control of dish position via 36v motors. First year of manufacture was around 1989. This model line was "the most upgradable and upgraded satellite receiver in the world for 10 years". My newest was made in 1994 or 1995. I still have 2 of the top of USA line 95 models in constant use. Only 2 lesser models were functional last I checked several years ago, but because of missing features I'd hate to have to substitute either when something goes wrong again in those in current use. I tried shopping for newer dish positioners, since positioning is the main thing they're good for any more, but the selection has dwindled to about 2, both poorly featured by comparison to these antiques, and neither of which is suitable for use in the same room at the same time as a second, as I need.

    They are among the hottest running such devices I ever encountered. Each uses somewhere around 39KWH/month. Besides normal use, I use them to accelerate curing of epoxy, and dry washed remote button pads. Each has two big transformers, probably 10 lbs. for them alone at least, maybe more than 12. Their digital boards each incorporate 3 different CPUs, among which one is an 8088-2.

    I replaced the largest power supply caps in several quite some years ago as they began misbehaving, before I knew more than a token about selecting replacement caps. Many of the big 35V and 25V 4700, 3300 and 2200s were oozing, some quite badly, so I changed all 3 on any of their power supplies I worked on at all. Probably on most I worked on I changed all their 3300uF 35Vs as well, as IIRC at least some of those were leaking too.

    I never succeeded getting a third 95 model resurrected, and now I want to try again, so that it can be substituted for either of the two now in use in order that I can check them over, including looking to see if any more leaking has developed, and check if prior leaking was properly cleaned up before any gets a change to cause uncorrectable trouble.

    Every cap in them is a Nichicon radial, series PF, PR, VR or VX. The power supply has 20. The model 95 digital board has 45. The A/V sections have too many to count, probably upwards of 150 across multiple boards. I only want to focus on the power supply to start with, then if that's not enough, clean and recap the digital board.

    Datasheets I found for only PR, VX and VR, and the VX I did find turned out to be for axials. So, will someone help me choose? Are there PF and VX radial datasheets known discoverable that I just haven't found? Should I just replace everything with FR? Here's what I have:
    Code:
     uF Volts List Wide Tall Brand Ser Ripl Temp     Inventory
    4700  25  1  18  36 Nich PR  1660 105 PW, PJ
    3300  35  2  18  36 Nich PR  1660 105 PM, PS, PW, KY
    3300  16  19  12  25 Nich VR  1700  85           KYB?
    2200  25  3  16  25 Nich PR  1230 105 PW, Marcon CEUS
     330  35  4  10  20 Nich PF   ? 105 PM (used here previously)
     330  35  5  10  20 Nich PF   ? 105 PM (used here previously)
     330  35  6  10  20 Nich PF   ? 105 PM (used here previously)
     330  35  7  10  20 Nich PF   ? 105 PM (used here previously)
     330  35  8  10  20 Nich PF   ? 105 PM (used here previously)
     100  35  9  8  13 Nich VX  ?210  85 HV
     100  35  15  6  11 Nich VR  210  85 HV
     100  16  11  6  12 Nich VX  ?160  85 FR
     100  16  20  6  12 Nich VX  ?160  85 FR
     22  50  12  6  12 Nich VX  ?85  85 FR
     10  50  13  5  12 Nich VX  ?50  85 KY, PW, Lelon RXJ
     10  50  16  5  12 Nich VX  ?50  85 KY, PW, Lelon RXJ
     10  50  17  5  12 Nich VX  ?50  85 KY, PW, Lelon RXJ
     10  25  18  5  12 Nich VX  ?50  85 GA
     2.2  50  10  5  12 Nich VX  ?23  85 KYA
     2.2  50  14  5  12 Nich VX  ?23  85 KYA
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  • stj
    Great Sage 齊天大聖
    • Dec 2009
    • 31028
    • Albion

    #2
    Re: ancient Montereys with leaky obsoletes, datasheet shortage

    just stuff it with FR, they have a rated life about 5 times the old stuff.

    not seen a montery for awhile, is it the cheapskate-20, or the badass-40 wih the big alphanumeric display?

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    • mrmazda
      MrMazda
      • Sep 2013
      • 115
      • USA

      #3
      Re: ancient Montereys with leaky obsoletes, datasheet shortage

      The North American and European satellite system require very different software. 20 and 40 weren't sold on my side. I have at least one of each of the entire 36V home use line. The 35 without was bottom of line. The 100s without were intended for institutional use, and control by RJ11 connection to remote PC and/or OSD and UHF. My 55s and 95s have the 23mm by 125mm displays. Only the 95s have 3 A/V inputs instead of one, and PIP. 95 and 100 have more storage space for customizations.

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      • stj
        Great Sage 齊天大聖
        • Dec 2009
        • 31028
        • Albion

        #4
        Re: ancient Montereys with leaky obsoletes, datasheet shortage

        then the 40 would be equal to a 95.
        although the 40 had the uhf remote option - just no rj11.
        was it ethernet, or rs232?

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        • mrmazda
          MrMazda
          • Sep 2013
          • 115
          • USA

          #5
          Re: ancient Montereys with leaky obsoletes, datasheet shortage

          Back when these were designed, I think ARCnet was still in widespread use, Ethernet not yet the PC networking standard, so for broader marketability, RS232 (9600 baud).

          All NA models had remotes that were combined infrared and UHF.
          Last edited by mrmazda; 12-27-2014, 07:42 PM.

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