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  • chlanman
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    • Oct 2014
    • 15
    • canada

    #1

    Sony Bravia KDL-55EX713 - No picture

    Hello, gents im having a problem with my KDL-55EX713
    Screen started going bad with lines on the left hand side only.
    Then gradually went to the full screen. Then went washed out, and then completely black now.
    This was over about 2 hour period.

    Now if i turn it on, just a black screen.

    Could this be the t-con ? I visually looked at the power supply board and all the cap's look to be good. When i turn power on there is a click

    Any suggestions?
    Where can i find schematics for my model?
    Thanks guys!!
  • tibimakai
    Badcaps Legend
    • Jan 2012
    • 3680
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Sony Bravia KDL-55EX713 - No picture

    I would check the voltage, before and after the fuse on the T-con.

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    • chlanman
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      • Oct 2014
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      #3
      Re: Sony Bravia KDL-55EX713 - No picture

      Thanks.
      Where do i check this?Wheres the fuse on the tcon? And what should the voltage be?

      Thanks!!

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      • chlanman
        Member
        • Oct 2014
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        #4
        Re: Sony Bravia KDL-55EX713 - No picture

        Here's the tcon board from my TV.
        Where can i find the fuse?
        Thanks
        Attached Files

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        • sordids999
          Badcaps Legend
          • May 2013
          • 2152
          • uk

          #5
          Re: Sony Bravia KDL-55EX713 - No picture

          Thats your fuses circled in red
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          • chlanman
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            • Oct 2014
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            #6
            Re: Sony Bravia KDL-55EX713 - No picture

            Thanks guys!
            And if its OK, what would you suggest next?

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Sony Bravia KDL-55EX713 - No picture

              "And if its OK, what would you suggest next?" Well we do not know the result yet until you check the fuse and the voltage first before going further.
              If there is no voltage (mire likely to be 12VDC) on the fuse, then you will need to do indepth component level troubleshooting the main board.
              Last edited by budm; 11-03-2014, 10:13 PM.
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • chlanman
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                • Oct 2014
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                #8
                Re: Sony Bravia KDL-55EX713 - No picture

                Originally posted by budm
                "And if its OK, what would you suggest next?" Well we do not know the result yet until you check the fuse and the voltage first before going further.
                If there is no voltage (mire likely to be 12VDC) on the fuse, then you will need to do indepth component level troubleshooting the main board.

                Thank you.
                So first thing check the fuses to confirm they are ok
                Plug in the tv turn on and confirm there is +12v to the fuses?
                Thanks for the help, im a n00bie

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Sony Bravia KDL-55EX713 - No picture

                  Yes.
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • chlanman
                    Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 15
                    • canada

                    #10
                    Re: Sony Bravia KDL-55EX713 - No picture

                    Thank you.
                    Measuring the voltage on the board with the power on. Do i check the fuse end to end with multimeter on VDC?
                    Or do i check with one end on the fuse with other to a ground point ?

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                    • Neelix
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 145
                      • South Africa

                      #11
                      Re: Sony Bravia KDL-55EX713 - No picture

                      With the power on and your meter set to Vdc, with the black probe you touch against a ground point and with the red probe you touch against one end of the fuse, check the voltage reading on your meter and then with the red probe again you touch against the other end of the fuse and again check the voltage reading on your meter. First though measure the end to end continuity/resistance of the fuse, with the power off
                      Last edited by Neelix; 11-04-2014, 01:41 AM.

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                      • chlanman
                        Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 15
                        • canada

                        #12
                        Re: Sony Bravia KDL-55EX713 - No picture

                        Completed some checks

                        1) All fuses have continuity, no concerns
                        2) All fuses have +12~vdc at fuses

                        Now i noticed when i turned it on there's a clicking coming from the tcon board
                        Im assuming this isnt normal ?

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                        • budm
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 40746
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: Sony Bravia KDL-55EX713 - No picture

                          It is down to either bad panel or bad T-CON. There are flat cables between the panel and the T-CON board, you can have them connected one at a time to see what you will get on the screen.
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • chlanman
                            Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 15
                            • canada

                            #14
                            Re: Sony Bravia KDL-55EX713 - No picture

                            Thanks.
                            Checked with 1 connected at a time. Basically gives me horizontal lines on either left or right side with one connected.

                            What would "click" on the Tcon board constantly?

                            Sorry but whats a bad panel? If its a bad panel is the tv pretty much scrap?

                            Thanks

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                            • budm
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 40746
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: Sony Bravia KDL-55EX713 - No picture

                              "Sorry but whats a bad panel? If its a bad panel is the tv pretty much scrap?"
                              If you have both cables disconnected, do you still hear clicking sound?
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                              • chlanman
                                Member
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 15
                                • canada

                                #16
                                Re: Sony Bravia KDL-55EX713 - No picture

                                Originally posted by budm
                                "Sorry but whats a bad panel? If its a bad panel is the tv pretty much scrap?"
                                If you have both cables disconnected, do you still hear clicking sound?
                                I will check that when i get home, thanks.

                                Im not sure what the cables exactly do?

                                What do cables 1,2,3 exactly do ?


                                Thanks
                                Attached Files

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                                • budm
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Feb 2010
                                  • 40746
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: Sony Bravia KDL-55EX713 - No picture

                                  1 & 2 goes to drive the ICs on the flexible between the glass panel and the PCB where the tab bonding are made. #3 is the LVDS cable where the LVDS are from the main board, it also supplies the power to the T-CON board.
                                  https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...1&postcount=16
                                  https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...4&postcount=12
                                  Last edited by budm; 11-04-2014, 07:48 PM.
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                  • chlanman
                                    Member
                                    • Oct 2014
                                    • 15
                                    • canada

                                    #18
                                    Re: Sony Bravia KDL-55EX713 - No picture

                                    Sorry as said before im a n00b and still learning lots

                                    What is ICs, PCB, LVDS ?

                                    Thanks again for all the help

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                                    • budm
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2010
                                      • 40746
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: Sony Bravia KDL-55EX713 - No picture

                                      Just type in the search engine.
                                      'What is Integrated circuit'
                                      'what is PCB'
                                      'what is LVDS'
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                      Comment

                                      • drussell
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Nov 2014
                                        • 144
                                        • Canada

                                        #20
                                        Re: Sony Bravia KDL-55EX713 - No picture

                                        Originally posted by chlanman
                                        Sorry as said before im a n00b and still learning lots

                                        What is ICs, PCB, LVDS ?
                                        Everyone has to start somewhere!

                                        IC = Integrated Circuit (a chip)

                                        PCB = Printed Circuit Board (a board)

                                        LVDS = Low-Voltage Differential Signaling (a common way of connecting things like the actual display panel)

                                        For high speed signals you often engineer things so that there is a pair of signal wires for each required signal. One swings positive while the other swings negative. The difference between those two signal wires is the actual signal value. Any noise that is introduced to the pair is present on both signal wires, so after the subtraction at the end, the noise is removed and the clean signal remains.

                                        This is why various types of wiring are twisted pair...
                                        It keeps the two differential signals tightly coupled so that any noise introduced is equal on both wires and can be removed at the end.

                                        Microphone cables work this way... "Twisted Pair" network cables work this way...

                                        LVDS is a specific type of differential signalling that happens to be the way LCD panels and such are connected to their controller boards to keep those high-bandwidth signals clean and tidy on the jaunt over to the actual panel.

                                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-vol...tial_signaling

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