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  • triplefour
    Badcaps Legend
    • May 2014
    • 1747
    • USA

    #41
    Re: Sanyo DP42740 no power

    yea i did add a bit of solder to each side to get it lifted, but i may have already messed it up when i tried to lift it without doing that. i didnt think i'd heated it for that long but oh well. live and learn. at least it can be repaired. worse case i could solder wires to complete the connection, right?
    Last edited by triplefour; 08-05-2014, 02:22 AM.
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    • martino
      Not so "senior"
      • Aug 2013
      • 997
      • canada

      #42
      Re: Sanyo DP42740 no power

      Yup you sure can ad wires. Pretty? No but functional
      Proud owner of dozens of broken TV's and many,many,many boards.


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      • triplefour
        Badcaps Legend
        • May 2014
        • 1747
        • USA

        #43
        Re: Sanyo DP42740 no power

        hmm i would order another 3100 right now but i have a feeling i might need to replace more than just that part...
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        • triplefour
          Badcaps Legend
          • May 2014
          • 1747
          • USA

          #44
          Re: Sanyo DP42740 no power

          so whats next up the chain that needs to be tested? or do i have to just replace the b3100 and hope that was the only thing wrong?
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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #45
            Re: Sanyo DP42740 no power

            Install new diode and see if the stby power supply will not longer stuck in startup/shutdow loop due to bad diode.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • triplefour
              Badcaps Legend
              • May 2014
              • 1747
              • USA

              #46
              Re: Sanyo DP42740 no power

              ok ill order a couple just to be sure.
              is this the right one?
              http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...DICT-ND/808543
              Last edited by triplefour; 08-05-2014, 10:05 PM.
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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #47
                Re: Sanyo DP42740 no power

                Originally posted by triplefour
                ok ill order a couple just to be sure.
                is this the right one?
                http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...DICT-ND/808543
                That is the correct one.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • triplefour
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • May 2014
                  • 1747
                  • USA

                  #48
                  Re: Sanyo DP42740 no power

                  thanks, ordering now
                  Don't fear the repair...

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                  • rccrasher65
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 600
                    • United States

                    #49
                    Re: Sanyo DP42740 no power

                    [QUOTE=martino;470462]"borrowed" a picture from the psu

                    http://www.toms-service-manuals.com/...h=Submit+Query

                    There ya go for schematics,thank tom66 for his amazing database.super handy.
                    Last edited by rccrasher65; 08-06-2014, 04:39 PM. Reason: wrong post sorry

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                    • triplefour
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • May 2014
                      • 1747
                      • USA

                      #50
                      Re: Sanyo DP42740 no power

                      yes thanks tom66 but that pdf doesnt actually have a skematic for the PSU as far as i could tell... doesnt even have a components list for it.
                      i have chassis type 04
                      Don't fear the repair...

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                      • triplefour
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • May 2014
                        • 1747
                        • USA

                        #51
                        Re: Sanyo DP42740 no power

                        it was just the shotkey diode! awesome. thanks budm!
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                        • budm
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 40746
                          • USA

                          #52
                          Re: Sanyo DP42740 no power

                          Thanks for the follow-up.
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • triplefour
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • May 2014
                            • 1747
                            • USA

                            #53
                            Re: Sanyo DP42740 no power

                            tv is still running strong a few months later. my friend loves his "new" tv, hes in front of it for hours every day! anyway so i found another one of these at the recycle place...or so i thought...turns out the chassis number is slightly different. the one i started this post with is chassis 04, the new one i found recently is chassis 00.
                            when we first got it, it worked for a whole day, then turned off. i was able to turn it back on, but then it turned off again after a few minutes. you could hear the relay switch inside keep trying to click over and over but nothing was happening. so i pushed power to turn it off, and it turned off. now today i look at it again, and it turns on just fine and stays on, and the backlight lights up but the picture only flashes for an instant every 10 seconds or so. i dont know much about how the plasmas work exactly yet but i figured i'd open it up and swap power supplies with the one i had fixed before since i know its good.
                            but then i got stopped.
                            they look the same on the outside but on the inside the parts are different.
                            different but similar. the PSU board still has all the same connections but the 00 chassis PSU is much bigger than the 04 chassis, i just might have to stretch a wire to reach.
                            but i am worried about just trying this power supply since if it blows then my friend will be really bummed. how can i know if these PSU are compatible?
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                            Last edited by triplefour; 11-17-2014, 07:44 AM.
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                            • triplefour
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • May 2014
                              • 1747
                              • USA

                              #54
                              Re: Sanyo DP42740 no power

                              heres the psu from chassis04
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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #55
                                Re: Sanyo DP42740 no power

                                Check with shopjimmy to see if they are compatible.
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                • triplefour
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • May 2014
                                  • 1747
                                  • USA

                                  #56
                                  Re: Sanyo DP42740 no power

                                  thanks bud. i was able to see on shopjimmy that the two boards 1AV4U20C52300 and N0AB6JK00001 are indeed compatible. i wonder if the mainboards could be as well...
                                  Don't fear the repair...

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                                  • triplefour
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • May 2014
                                    • 1747
                                    • USA

                                    #57
                                    Re: Sanyo DP42740 no power

                                    well according to shopjimmy they are compatible and maybe they are, but the connectors arent and i would have to disassemble and reassemble connectors to make the wiring correct... big pain that i just dont have the patience for at the moment. im pretty sure it is the power supply anyway. it seems like its an overheating issue since it turns off after a while (a few hours or maybe all day) and then wont turn on again until it cools down. is this only capacitors that cause this kind of behavior or could it be another part?
                                    Don't fear the repair...

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                                    • triplefour
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • May 2014
                                      • 1747
                                      • USA

                                      #58
                                      Re: Sanyo DP42740 no power

                                      the way it seems like im running my business, since it takes so long to troubleshoot the component level (since im not so good at it yet, and also just because it takes time), if i can get the replacement board for 30 or less then i will just go that route, fix the tv, and sell it. this means im going to end up with a bunch of undiagnosed faulty boards...guess ill just give them away here for the cost of shipping until i finally get better/quicker at repairing them.
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                                      • vinceroger69
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Mar 2012
                                        • 6714
                                        • uk

                                        #59
                                        Re: Sanyo DP42740 no power

                                        Originally posted by triplefour
                                        the way it seems like im running my business, since it takes so long to troubleshoot the component level (since im not so good at it yet, and also just because it takes time), if i can get the replacement board for 30 or less then i will just go that route, fix the tv, and sell it. this means im going to end up with a bunch of undiagnosed faulty boards...guess ill just give them away here for the cost of shipping until i finally get better/quicker at repairing them.
                                        Too be honest thats sometimes what i do. I also use the faulty boards for parts salvage or when im board with nothing to do i will have another go at fixing it.

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                                        • triplefour
                                          Badcaps Legend
                                          • May 2014
                                          • 1747
                                          • USA

                                          #60
                                          Re: Sanyo DP42740 no power

                                          well great. i got the replacement board in today...plugged it in, all excited. get nothing. turns on for a second. green LED comes on...backlight flashes once, then dies..

                                          before i replaced the board i tested the original one time, and it came on. as was the pattern. if i leave this tv alone for days it will turn on for a while then turn itself off. then over the next day or so you will get less and less time out of it before it shuts off, until it just wont turn on...then u can rest it for a few days and repeat... (i havent thouroughly tested this but thats what its been seeming like)
                                          so i turned it off and replaced with the board i got from ebay and i got the green light for a second, flash of backlight then dead.

                                          so dang i figured the board i got from ebay is bad then. so i put my orginal back in...now its doing the same thing. green light, backlight flash, turn off.

                                          so much for saving myself the trouble by just buying the board. looks like ill have to actually try to diagnose something.

                                          could it be my inverter and not my power supply?

                                          PS i could believe that the power supply he sent me is broken though, because it was cheap, and because it just came wrapped in bubble wrap with no anti static protection (tell me im not the only one who gets pissed off about that?)

                                          PPS i just realized the service manual has a lot of troubleshooting guides in it i havent followed yet. thank you sanyo!
                                          Last edited by triplefour; 12-08-2014, 09:57 PM.
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