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  • Ltank
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Jun 2013
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    #1

    JVC LT-47X579 NoBacklight

    Set had fallen a short distance according to customer. Removed back and every board to inspect under magnifier. No cracks in boards or solder joints visable. Reseated connection
    Set has sound. PS board not labeled to jumper PS. No service manual either. PS is LCA90817. How do I jump PS to force backlight on?
  • Ltank
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    • Jun 2013
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    #2
    Re: JVC LT-47X579 NoBacklight

    Pi s
    Attached Files

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    • tom66
      EVs Rule
      • Apr 2011
      • 32560
      • UK

      #3
      Re: JVC LT-47X579 NoBacklight

      Do you have 24V and do you have BL ON/OFF signal on the inverter board?
      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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      • Ltank
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        #4
        Re: JVC LT-47X579 NoBacklight

        I have 24vdc to inverter but the boards have no labels telling you what pin is what.
        no labels on main board or PS. The inverter is labeled.got 3.3vdc to BL-On

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        • tom66
          EVs Rule
          • Apr 2011
          • 32560
          • UK

          #5
          Re: JVC LT-47X579 NoBacklight

          The "standard" which is common on newer TVs is:

          24V
          24V
          24V
          24V
          24V
          GND
          GND
          GND
          GND
          GND
          Error (often unused) L: No error / H: Error
          BL ON/OFF L: Off H: On
          Dim1 Analog (0-3V)
          Dim2 PWM (Square wave 10~90% @ 100~400Hz)

          Not certain about analog/digital pin out it can vary between models
          But all that is really important is the BL ON/OFF.
          Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
          For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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          • Ltank
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            • Jun 2013
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            #6
            Re: JVC LT-47X579 NoBacklight

            When set is first turned on the backlights flash on breifly then turn off. Sound stays on.
            the BL-On stays at 3.3 vdc I even used meter to monitor all the pins one at time to check voltages when set is turned on to look for a command that turns on then off. Any
            voltages that come up stay on. Not what I was expecting to see. Does anyone have any info on Power supply or other boards for this set?

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            • Ltank
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              • Jun 2013
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              #7
              Re: JVC LT-47X579 NoBacklight

              Bl-on stays constant 3.3vdc
              I_PWM constant 3vdc
              No error or Inv-on on
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              • tom66
                EVs Rule
                • Apr 2011
                • 32560
                • UK

                #8
                Re: JVC LT-47X579 NoBacklight

                Have you checked all the fuses on the inverter board?
                Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: JVC LT-47X579 NoBacklight

                  Since these are CMO inverter boards, check all the fuses including small black fuse with '15' or '20' on top. It looks something like this.
                  Attached Files
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • Ltank
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 776
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                    #10
                    Re: JVC LT-47X579 NoBacklight

                    All fuses are good. Backlight breifly comes on when turning on.

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                    • tom66
                      EVs Rule
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 32560
                      • UK

                      #11
                      Re: JVC LT-47X579 NoBacklight

                      Ah, you have two (main) possibilites then:
                      - Bad transformer
                      - Bad bulb

                      Since it was mentioned that the TV fell a broken bulb is a lot more likely.
                      However, you should check the transformer secondary resistances too.
                      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: JVC LT-47X579 NoBacklight

                        OK, we need to check resistance of the high voltage windings of the inverter transoformers next. Can you read the P/N as printed on the body so we can look for the pinout of the secondaries side of the transformers.
                        Last edited by budm; 05-27-2014, 05:32 PM.
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • tom66
                          EVs Rule
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 32560
                          • UK

                          #13
                          Re: JVC LT-47X579 NoBacklight

                          Also check the transformers for cracks/fractures in the ferrite of the transformers.
                          Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                          For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                          • Ltank
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Jun 2013
                            • 776
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: JVC LT-47X579 NoBacklight

                            Ok thanks will do it tomorrow. What is the best way to check each bulb? One of those small testers?
                            If the wires to the bulbs have 2 wires on each end but the testers have two leads?

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                            • tom66
                              EVs Rule
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 32560
                              • UK

                              #15
                              Re: JVC LT-47X579 NoBacklight

                              Do you have a spare CCFL? From a 32" or bigger TV? Or a spare strip fluroscent light? You can place it near the inverter outputs across all of them at once. Whichever part of the bulb which is over a connector that does not light up is a bad transformer or shorted bulb connection.
                              I saw someone else on here use that trick and it looked pretty neat.

                              To verify you should then check the secondary resistance of the transformers. Only if you can rule out the inverter suspect the bulbs.
                              Last edited by tom66; 05-27-2014, 08:03 PM.
                              Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                              For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: JVC LT-47X579 NoBacklight

                                I use this to locate bad inverter transformer.
                                https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...x+dx-40l261a12
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                • Ltank
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Jun 2013
                                  • 776
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: JVC LT-47X579 NoBacklight

                                  I disconnected all the bulbs from the two inverters then plugged in one bulb at a time to both inverters and turned set on to see if that bulb lights up. I did this for all ten two wire connectors to each board on both sides ot the set. Every bulb did the same thing. When set is turned on the bulb would flash on temperary then goes out. I placed a neon bulb next to each transformer on the inverter and it glowed as long as the bulbs were lite up. You could see a picture on the screen each time . Can I rule out the T-Con and screen?

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                                  • Ltank
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Jun 2013
                                    • 776
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: JVC LT-47X579 NoBacklight

                                    When the backlight does turn on, at that time I neasure a 4vdc on CN23#12 Error on the flat ribbon cable that goes to CN25 on the othe inverter. The error code probably generated on the master inverter. If all the bulbs light up does not give an indication of curent draw on each bulb. Not having any service info. I hate to buy new inverters and it not be the problem.

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