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  • 90Ninety
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 86
    • UK Mains Voltage 240V 50 Hz

    #1

    43PUS6401/12 PHILIPS 715G7350-P01-000-002S

    So I stupidly volunteered to fix a friend's TV, a Phillips 43PUS6401/12

    I have previously fixed TV's before , even replacing cathode rays , not a fun task .. Typically the advent of subpar capacitors inside the early Samsung Flatscreens is the reason I originally registered here

    However I digress , the Phillps TV was not switching on , no standby light nothing... So rightly or wrongly ( probably wrong ) I assumed the power board was dead , or a faulty power board .. Upon first inspection, I got the MultiBeeper on it , since I am aware of Ohms law , I checked the regular things like fuses, diodes but I haven't seen anything immediately obvious, no burns, swelled caps , weird smells or creatures inside .. There is a repair kit for this particular set claiming to fix 99% of problems , but it costs more than 40 euros .. So I decided to order a replacement board for another 5 euros extra.. typical :/



    In the interim while waiting for the board, I checked the output DC voltages on the pinout . The label on the pinout labels GND , 3V, 5V , 12V and 12VA .. The only voltage that was correct was the 3V , the rest of the voltages were 0.1 to 0.5 , this furthered my assumption it was a dead/ faulty board

    Fast forward a few weeks , new board comes , I plug in it in and zapped myself , which was better than the coffee rush I had in the morning .. When checking the DC pinout , to my surprise the voltages were 3V (as before ) but 2.2V on 12V , which seems odd right? Shouldn't it be 12V DC and 12V AC here



    Anyhow I could be lazy and just swap the board and see what happens .. Though part of me wants to fix or at least learn further from this fault .

    If anyone wants to suggest something, probing somewhere , checking something , before I toss the old board out , please be my guess .. I would love to recycle , instead of putting this into landfill , or sending it off to a third world country .
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  • lotas
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    • Jan 2016
    • 4589
    • Russia

    #2
    For the remaining voltages to appear (now you have a 3v standby voltage to power the motherboard), the motherboard must give a command to turn on (PS-ON) and then the remaining voltages should appear.
    Check for low or short circuit on the 12v line.
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    • 90Ninety
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2011
      • 86
      • UK Mains Voltage 240V 50 Hz

      #3
      Originally posted by lotas
      For the remaining voltages to appear (now you have a 3v standby voltage to power the motherboard), the motherboard must give a command to turn on (PS-ON) and then the remaining voltages should appear.
      Check for low or short circuit on the 12v line.
      Hi I only took the Power board out of the TV , thinking it could be fixed , without the need the mainboard . Is there a way to trigger the PS-ON without the mainboard?

      I could not find a short yet between the 12V and GND , though perhaps there is once switched on right ?

      For the record the repair kit list Perhaps I should check these components for shorts?

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      • lotas
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        • Jan 2016
        • 4589
        • Russia

        #4
        Try the 3v output, apply it through a 1 kOm resistor to the PS_ON pin, sometimes you need a load at the output, that is, hang car incandescent lamps at 3v and 12v.

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        • 90Ninety
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 86
          • UK Mains Voltage 240V 50 Hz

          #5
          So I tried both the suspect board and the replacement

          The 12V rails come to life with the 1K resistor on both boards .. I am now assuming the Power boards are fine :/

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          • Diah
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            • Feb 2013
            • 6364
            • Germany

            #6
            as usual with out replace PSU boards.. if you did search over here you will find the reason... BGA at main IC if the LED BL are fine.

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            • Diah
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              • Feb 2013
              • 6364
              • Germany

              #7
              Originally posted by lotas
              Try the 3v output, apply it through a 1 kOm resistor to the PS_ON pin, sometimes you need a load at the output, that is, hang car incandescent lamps at 3v and 12v.
              just to clarify steps by adding load.... this need only if we are going to measure the Ampere Currents of the rails. other wise over all kind of TV PSU no need to exam only output circuit.

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              • lotas
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                • Jan 2016
                • 4589
                • Russia

                #8
                Originally posted by Diah
                just to clarify steps by adding load.... this need only if we are going to measure the Ampere Currents of the rails. other wise over all kind of TV PSU no need to exam only output circuit.
                I wrote that sometimes, that is, on some power supplies (without load the (unstable) output voltages will jump).

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                • Diah
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                  • Feb 2013
                  • 6364
                  • Germany

                  #9
                  Originally posted by lotas

                  I wrote that sometimes, that is, on some power supplies (without load the (unstable) output voltages will jump).
                  yes i know you wrote it some time.as you know how it work.. but it was only clarify to other such here in this threat spend 45§ for nothings... so we do have 2 Type of PSU STBY. 1- stable =>3.3V & 2- Low 5-7V go high to 12-13V after Power_ON. No 2 still we don't need load.for it. if we used step down circuit or we ignore it total and seeking other source on PSU had the rail of =>3.3V such AC_DET for example to exam the PSU outputs rail.

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                  • Sasiccia
                    New Member
                    • Feb 2025
                    • 4
                    • Hungary

                    #10
                    Hi everyone!

                    I seem to have stubled in a similar issue:

                    My Philips model 43pus6401/12 tv doesn't turn on
                    Not even the power led goes on
                    I've looked for info online and gathered information on which are the most common fault points
                    I've then procedeed to gather readings with my multimeter
                    I would you be as kind as to help me out understanding which components seem faulty? :

                    Component reading with multimeter:

                    Fuse position F9902

                    Ebay board
                    ―⯈⊢ = 00.1
                    200 Ω = 00.3

                    Original board (Also faulty)
                    ―⯈⊢ = 00.1
                    200 Ω = 00.6

                    Mosfet position Q8601

                    Ebay board

                    ―⯈⊢ = S+D=469, S+G=713 D+G=1
                    200 Ω = S+D=1 S+G=1 D+G=1

                    Original board (Also faulty)

                    ―⯈⊢ = S+D=469, S+G=713 D+G=1
                    200 Ω = S+D=1 S+G=1 D+G=1

                    Resistor position R8601

                    Ebay board

                    ―⯈⊢ = 00.0
                    200 Ω = 00.8

                    Original board (Also faulty)

                    ―⯈⊢ = 00.0
                    200 Ω = 00.8

                    Capacitor position C8626

                    Ebay board

                    ―⯈⊢ = 468
                    200 Ω = 1

                    Original board (Also faulty)

                    ―⯈⊢ = Component not present
                    200 Ω = Component not present

                    Diode D8609

                    Ebay board

                    ―⯈⊢ = 068
                    200 Ω = 68.8

                    Original board (Also faulty)
                    ―⯈⊢ = 069
                    200 Ω = 69.0

                    Integrated circuit position U8601

                    I did not find a pinout online, so I only report the supposed continuity readings:

                    Ebay board

                    Pin 1+4
                    ―⯈⊢ = 684
                    200 Ω = 00.6

                    Pin 1+2
                    ―⯈⊢ = 680
                    200 Ω = 00.6

                    Pin 2+3

                    ―⯈⊢ = 000
                    200 Ω =00.6

                    Pin 2+4

                    ―⯈⊢ = 000
                    200 Ω =00.6

                    Pin 3+1

                    ―⯈⊢ = 000
                    200 Ω =00.6

                    Pin 3+4

                    ―⯈⊢ = 000
                    200 Ω =00.5

                    Pin 5+6

                    ―⯈⊢ = 467
                    200 Ω =1

                    Pin 6+8

                    ―⯈⊢ = 723
                    200 Ω =1

                    Pin 7+5

                    ―⯈⊢ = 733
                    200 Ω =1

                    Pin 7+8

                    ―⯈⊢ = 826
                    200 Ω =1

                    Original board (Also faulty)

                    Pin 1+2

                    ―⯈⊢ = 684
                    200 Ω = 00.5

                    Pin 1+4

                    ―⯈⊢ = 659
                    200 Ω = 00.5

                    Pin 2+3

                    ―⯈⊢ = 000
                    200 Ω = 00.5

                    Pin 2+4

                    ―⯈⊢ = 000
                    200 Ω = 00.5

                    Pin 4+5

                    ―⯈⊢ = 549
                    200 Ω = 1

                    Pin 5+6

                    ―⯈⊢ = 745
                    200 Ω = 1

                    Pin 1+5

                    ―⯈⊢ = 538
                    200 Ω = 1

                    Pin 2+5

                    ―⯈⊢ = 553
                    200 Ω = 1

                    Pin 3+5

                    ―⯈⊢ = 543
                    200 Ω = 1

                    Pin 4+5

                    ―⯈⊢ = 542
                    200 Ω = 1

                    Diode D9105

                    Ebay board

                    ―⯈⊢ = 1
                    200 Ω = 1

                    Original board (Also faulty)

                    ―⯈⊢ = 1
                    200 Ω = 1

                    SMD resistor R8616

                    Ebay board

                    ―⯈⊢ = 549
                    200 Ω = 1

                    Original board (Also faulty)

                    ―⯈⊢ = 556
                    200 Ω = 1

                    SMD resistor R8617

                    Ebay board

                    ―⯈⊢ = 022
                    200 Ω = 22.3

                    Original board (Also faulty)

                    ―⯈⊢ = 022
                    200 Ω = 22.3

                    SMD resistor R8618

                    Ebay board

                    ―⯈⊢ = 047
                    200 Ω = 47.1

                    Original board (Also faulty)

                    ―⯈⊢ = 047
                    200 Ω = 47.1

                    SMD resistor R8619

                    Ebay board

                    ―⯈⊢ = 1
                    200 Ω = 1

                    Original board (Also faulty)

                    ―⯈⊢ = 1
                    200 Ω = 1​


                    It would be great if somebody could help me figuring this out


                    Thanks a lot in advance,

                    Kind Regards,

                    S.

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