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  • freakaftr8
    Badcaps Legend
    • Oct 2012
    • 3743
    • USA

    #1

    Olevia 337-b11 no dc

    just picked up this TV for a song thought it had bad caps but as it turns out somebody had already replaced 3 known bad caps on this board and still not working I have 5V stand by and when I turn it on the blue light goes out but no 24 volts to the inverters and no 5 volt power I have checked diodes and Mosfets what's interesting is c54 small SMD cap was shorted so it was causing 5v output and ground to be short it together but I fixed that still nothing. This uses aep016-37 power supply. I also tried jumpering pson w 5vstby. same thing.any ideas where to go next with this I notice a lot of people have problems with this power supply
    Did I leave the soldering iron on?
  • multimeter
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Jan 2011
    • 739
    • united kingdom

    #2
    Re: Olevia 337-b11 no dc

    does this supply have the flying earth lead,and 5 huge heatsinks?,if it is replace the output caps before anything.
    fixed so far...376 lg lcd tv's,24 onn tv;s,24 panasonic lcd,16 jvc lcd,12 marshall jcm800 amps,refurb of various disco equipment lighting,old style disco decks ,and a flymo!

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    please let us know if everything works ok if your tv gets fixed, as it will be and aid for anyone else having the same problem and wishing to fix it.it would save people clogging up this site with topics that are duplicated,and can be found easily using the search function.,and taking up valuable space.enjoy your fixed tv!,hopefully!

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    • freakaftr8
      Badcaps Legend
      • Oct 2012
      • 3743
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Olevia 337-b11 no dc

      Yes it does. figured it was a cap issue but for some reason they all look good but I guess looks can be deceiving huh
      Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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      • multimeter
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Jan 2011
        • 739
        • united kingdom

        #4
        Re: Olevia 337-b11 no dc

        Originally posted by freakaftr8
        Yes it does. figured it was a cap issue but for some reason they all look good but I guess looks can be deceiving huh
        what series and brand have they been replaced with?
        fixed so far...376 lg lcd tv's,24 onn tv;s,24 panasonic lcd,16 jvc lcd,12 marshall jcm800 amps,refurb of various disco equipment lighting,old style disco decks ,and a flymo!

        ----------------------------------------------
        please let us know if everything works ok if your tv gets fixed, as it will be and aid for anyone else having the same problem and wishing to fix it.it would save people clogging up this site with topics that are duplicated,and can be found easily using the search function.,and taking up valuable space.enjoy your fixed tv!,hopefully!

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        • freakaftr8
          Badcaps Legend
          • Oct 2012
          • 3743
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Olevia 337-b11 no dc

          Nte. Looks like only one was replaced looking closer.
          Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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          • multimeter
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Jan 2011
            • 739
            • united kingdom

            #6
            Re: Olevia 337-b11 no dc

            Originally posted by freakaftr8
            Nte. Looks like only one was replaced looking closer.
            those dont look like low esr caps
            fixed so far...376 lg lcd tv's,24 onn tv;s,24 panasonic lcd,16 jvc lcd,12 marshall jcm800 amps,refurb of various disco equipment lighting,old style disco decks ,and a flymo!

            ----------------------------------------------
            please let us know if everything works ok if your tv gets fixed, as it will be and aid for anyone else having the same problem and wishing to fix it.it would save people clogging up this site with topics that are duplicated,and can be found easily using the search function.,and taking up valuable space.enjoy your fixed tv!,hopefully!

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            • freakaftr8
              Badcaps Legend
              • Oct 2012
              • 3743
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Olevia 337-b11 no dc

              Yea I love home brew hack jobs.
              Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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              • freakaftr8
                Badcaps Legend
                • Oct 2012
                • 3743
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Olevia 337-b11 no dc

                W ell I went ahead and recap the output supply and I'm still getting the same thing. I do however notice that I get 3.3v and 5V output to the mainboard which explains why the power indicator works in the power button works. I'm getting about 165 V of the main capacitor and days there even after powering up. Basically no 24 volt or 12 volt or 5 volt. I even tried jumping the opto isolator and still no voltage. I tried Crossing PS on with 5 volt supply and still no output. does this kind of sounds like a voltage regulator problem? There is a 5pin voltage regulator on the power supply that I know fails on certain Samsung power supplies and I'm wondering if this could be the same issue of course I do not know how to test these certain types of regulators
                Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Olevia 337-b11 no dc

                  You will have to get the PFC Voltage booster circuit to work first since the 12v/24v power supply requires 370~400VDC to run that section. So if you force on the PS_ON pin and still do not get the boosted voltage, then PFC IC controller and MOSFET, ETC in that section need to be checked.
                  Any good clear pictures of both sides of the board?
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • freakaftr8
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 3743
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Olevia 337-b11 no dc

                    I'll take some tomorrow. It's at work. The pfc booster ic. Is that the 6 pin ic?
                    Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Olevia 337-b11 no dc

                      Cannot tell until we see good clear pictures of the board, both sides.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • freakaftr8
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 3743
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Olevia 337-b11 no dc

                        Should I be jumping 5v standby to PS_ON? That's whats on the coppel TV blog but when I have my PS benched, the PS_ON to 5v standby doesn't do anything to the 3.3v but connected in the tv it does...

                        I always thught it was PS_ON to ground..
                        Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                        • budm
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 40746
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: Olevia 337-b11 no dc

                          99% of the power supply board uses active high for PS_ON to turn on the power supply, <1V = OFF, >2V = ON.
                          To test the power supply board, you must remove the cable between the main board and the power supply board (we do not want the main board to load down the force on signal), then use 1K between the 5VSTBY and the PS_ON pin to force on the power supply.
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • mmartell
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Oct 2013
                            • 3189
                            • Canada

                            #14
                            Re: Olevia 337-b11 no dc

                            The resistor is used because the PSON circuit is expecting 3.3v and not 5v, correct ?

                            And if PSON is active low should the pin be grounded or is floating ok ?

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                            • freakaftr8
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 3743
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: Olevia 337-b11 no dc

                              Ok just to clarify I already did the ps_on. To 5vstby. No change. That was benched. No output voltage except 5v standby. But when installed in tv I get the 3.3 v.
                              Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                              • multimeter
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 739
                                • united kingdom

                                #16
                                Re: Olevia 337-b11 no dc

                                Originally posted by mmartell
                                The resistor is used because the PSON circuit is expecting 3.3v and not 5v, correct ?

                                And if PSON is active low should the pin be grounded or is floating ok ?
                                the resistor is used to limit current in the event of another problem.a jumper may cause components to burn.

                                sounds like mainboard is dragging down the 5VSTBY,check the 5v line pin on the mainboard for low resistance,you want to see many kohms for a non shorted rail,with the mainboard dis-connected...
                                fixed so far...376 lg lcd tv's,24 onn tv;s,24 panasonic lcd,16 jvc lcd,12 marshall jcm800 amps,refurb of various disco equipment lighting,old style disco decks ,and a flymo!

                                ----------------------------------------------
                                please let us know if everything works ok if your tv gets fixed, as it will be and aid for anyone else having the same problem and wishing to fix it.it would save people clogging up this site with topics that are duplicated,and can be found easily using the search function.,and taking up valuable space.enjoy your fixed tv!,hopefully!

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                                • freakaftr8
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Oct 2012
                                  • 3743
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: Olevia 337-b11 no dc

                                  http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/a...psaa1356eb.jpg
                                  http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/a...6/DSC01680.jpg

                                  Here are the pictures of.the board. Interstingly I have found on the DC DC converter ic 1501a50 Pins.1.3 and 5 act shorted.
                                  Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                                  • freakaftr8
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Oct 2012
                                    • 3743
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: Olevia 337-b11 no dc

                                    Darn. I have nothing to check that dc converter in my stash to check it against. whatever it is doing its obviously shorting the L9 inductor to ground
                                    Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                                    • freakaftr8
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Oct 2012
                                      • 3743
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: Olevia 337-b11 no dc

                                      Pulled regulator and tests good. Something else.seems to be grounded
                                      Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                                      • freakaftr8
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Oct 2012
                                        • 3743
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: Olevia 337-b11 no dc

                                        okay I know I'm not crazy but maybe I am I'm not sure but it appears that the 18 volts is shorted to ground by Design
                                        Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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