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  • NihonNoir
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    #161
    Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

    Actually, I can see it better in the pictures. That's definitely an "IC" there before the 800. I just can't see it so well without the magnification.

    Also, while looking at the flow chart again, I see that at least 5V Stby voltage is expected before PFC is activated. I don't have that (that I can tell), but surely I must be checking it wrong if the green light is coming on.

    Starting on page 35 there's a breakdown of the pins on that IC800 chip, for a different model chassis, anyway.

    Pulled the main board out last night and checked the back of it. Looks brand new. Smells fine.
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    Last edited by NihonNoir; 01-26-2014, 11:52 AM.

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    • tom66
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      #162
      Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

      Yes, you have 5V standby, or you would not have power light.

      So, what pin(s) do you want to check of IC800?

      What is main board code (e.g. N7AF, N8AE...)
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      • NihonNoir
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        #163
        Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

        N7AE

        I'm not really sure. I wanted to try and follow the directions on page 5, but I'm not sure what to do exactly. Or even if my IC800 is the same as in this SM.

        *It's the same.
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        Last edited by NihonNoir; 01-26-2014, 12:22 PM.

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        • tom66
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          #164
          Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

          I will try and find schematic of your main board and check it is those pins.
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          • NihonNoir
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            #165
            Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

            Pin Info
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            • tom66
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              #166
              Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

              Is that list for YOUR board?
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              • NihonNoir
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                #167
                Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

                No, it's for the 00 chassis. I have 01.

                According to ShopJimmy tho, if I'm reading correctly, they use the same main board, but not same power board.

                http://www.shopjimmy.com/sanyo-n7ae-...-p42849-00.htm
                Last edited by NihonNoir; 01-26-2014, 12:10 PM.

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                • NihonNoir
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                  #168
                  Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

                  Main board in service manual for DP42849-00 matches up to my main board. I guess I just assumed that since the power board is different, the main board would be too.
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                  • tom66
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                    #169
                    Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

                    OK, I'd check pin 48 (>3.6V if OK, <3.6V if error) and pin 23 (similar.) Do you need those pins highlighted?
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                    • NihonNoir
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                      #170
                      Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

                      Originally posted by tom66
                      OK, I'd check pin 48 (>3.6V if OK, <3.6V if error) and pin 23 (similar.) Do you need those pins highlighted?
                      These? (See photo).

                      How do I check? Norcal never shows it, he just does it. Do I put black to a ground and red to pin?

                      What should I set my meter to, DCV 20?

                      TV on? Plugged in?
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                      Last edited by NihonNoir; 01-26-2014, 12:16 PM.

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                      • tom66
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                        #171
                        Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

                        Yes, that looks correct.
                        TV powered on, test while green light is lit.
                        DC 20V is fine.
                        Black probe on chassis.
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                        • vinceroger69
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                          #172
                          Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

                          did you read this post 6 says it a main board fault too so hopefully your on the right tracks.
                          https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...=Sanyo+DP42849

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                          • NihonNoir
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                            #173
                            Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

                            Okay, with black probe in a little hole in the chassis and red probe to pin 23:
                            0.69 when TV plugged in
                            0.69 when power button pressed

                            Pin 48:
                            0.46 when TV plugged in
                            0.78 when power button pressed

                            Originally posted by vinceroger69
                            did you read this post 6 says it a main board fault too so hopefully your on the right tracks.
                            https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...=Sanyo+DP42849

                            Thanks. Yes, I've seen him post that in a few places. Hopefully he's right.
                            Last edited by NihonNoir; 01-26-2014, 01:39 PM.

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                            • tom66
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                              #174
                              Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

                              So, you have POWER DET fail. Need to look at main board schematic and come up with a list of check points.
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                              • tom66
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                                #175
                                Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

                                OK, pictures of the following chips would be useful:

                                IC1660 - 12/15V to 9V - small 5 pin chip
                                IC1630 - 4V/5V to 3.3V - larger 5 pin regulator IC
                                Q1651 - local 5V - small 6 pin MOSFET
                                IC1670 (if present) - audio power - larger 5 pin switcher IC
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                                • NihonNoir
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                                  #176
                                  Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

                                  I couldn't find an IC1670. Hope these are clear enough.
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                                  Last edited by NihonNoir; 01-26-2014, 03:15 PM.

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                                  • NihonNoir
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                                    #177
                                    Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

                                    Well I found IC1670 on the board, but there's nothing there.

                                    Weird. According to the schematic, it should be there. The board listed for my chassis has it missing, but the actual board I have has it there.
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                                    Last edited by NihonNoir; 01-26-2014, 03:35 PM.

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                                    • tom66
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                                      #178
                                      Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

                                      Can you check:
                                      pin 5 of IC1660 = should be 9V
                                      pin 3 of IC1630 = should be 3.3V
                                      pin 1 of Q1651 = should be 5V
                                      voltage across R1684 (may or may not be present: if omitted, test voltage across pads) near IC001. See attached.
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                                      • NihonNoir
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                                        #179
                                        Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

                                        Originally posted by tom66
                                        Can you check:
                                        pin 5 of IC1660 = should be 9V
                                        pin 3 of IC1630 = should be 3.3V
                                        pin 1 of Q1651 = should be 5V
                                        voltage across R1684 (may or may not be present: if omitted, test voltage across pads) near IC001. See attached.
                                        With TV plugged in and power button pressed?

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                                        • tom66
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                                          #180
                                          Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

                                          Yes.
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