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  • donst
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2013
    • 56
    • uk

    #1

    Saumsung le40b554m2w; Sound but no picture

    Hi all,

    I have a samsung le40b554m2w that is around 3-4 years old now that is having problems and i just hoping that someone here can help me out.

    Basically, i am getting sound but no picture. When initially turning the tv on the picture shows up for about half a second and then the picture just goes black/blank. Does anyone know what the problem could be and how i can go about fixing the problem?

    Thanks all, all help much appreciated.
  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Saumsung le40b554m2w; Sound but no picture

    You can start by posting good clear pictures of the back of the TV and the boards.
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • donst
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2013
      • 56
      • uk

      #3
      Re: Saumsung le40b554m2w; Sound but no picture

      Hi, sorry about that.

      http://oi41.tinypic.com/358c9hh.jpg

      http://oi39.tinypic.com/2dcj380.jpg

      http://oi39.tinypic.com/30tow9u.jpg

      http://oi43.tinypic.com/143j62s.jpg

      Just to point out, we have checked for blown caps and as far as we can tell there aren't any.

      Also, it's worth noting that when i turn the tv on it does not always display a picture for a split second like i mentioned in the original post, on most occasions it does but on other occasions you just see backlight turn on and then it goes completely black again, similar to when the picture is shown for a split second.

      Thanks.
      Last edited by donst; 11-19-2013, 10:56 AM.

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      • donst
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2013
        • 56
        • uk

        #4
        Re: Saumsung le40b554m2w; Sound but no picture

        Anyone?

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        • tom66
          EVs Rule
          • Apr 2011
          • 32560
          • UK

          #5
          Re: Saumsung le40b554m2w; Sound but no picture

          When it does go blank can you still see a faint glow from the screen backlight or does that go?
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          • donst
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2013
            • 56
            • uk

            #6
            Re: Saumsung le40b554m2w; Sound but no picture

            Hi, thanks for the response.

            It seems to go completely blank, when you initially turn the TV on the backlight (when the picture does not display for that split second) is significantly apparent and then just seems to switch off and go blank.

            I've just done another test by holding up a torch in a dark room, the first time i did this i was under the impression that there was no picture but the test i just did now there quite clearly is a picture. This suggests it's a backlight issue right?
            Last edited by donst; 11-20-2013, 06:07 AM.

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            • tom66
              EVs Rule
              • Apr 2011
              • 32560
              • UK

              #7
              Re: Saumsung le40b554m2w; Sound but no picture

              BN44-00264C is your power board part #.


              Pin 23 of CN801 (goes to main board) is inverter on/off. Check this.
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              • donst
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2013
                • 56
                • uk

                #8
                Re: Saumsung le40b554m2w; Sound but no picture

                I'm getting 3v for the inverter.

                Not sure if this is worth noting or not, but when testing various pins the backlight (not the picture) for a split second on occasions turns on, although this is not consistent to any specific pin and does seem to my knowledge rather random.
                Last edited by donst; 11-20-2013, 07:44 AM.

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                • donst
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2013
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                  • uk

                  #9
                  Re: Saumsung le40b554m2w; Sound but no picture

                  Hi mate, is that reading suitable for the inverter pin? Any idea on what i should do next?

                  Thanks.

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                  • tom66
                    EVs Rule
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 32560
                    • UK

                    #10
                    Re: Saumsung le40b554m2w; Sound but no picture

                    That is good. Now, check the voltage across the large 450V capacitors. What do you see? Should be in the region of 380V to 400V. Be careful: you are checking on the high voltage primary side. Do not touch anything on the primary of the power supply and be careful not to let your probes slip.
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                    • donst
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                      • Nov 2013
                      • 56
                      • uk

                      #11
                      Re: Saumsung le40b554m2w; Sound but no picture

                      Ok so i've measured both and both capacitors measure at 280v.
                      Last edited by donst; 11-20-2013, 05:38 PM.

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Saumsung le40b554m2w; Sound but no picture

                        "280V' is way too low, even when the PFC is not kick in, you should have around 320~330VDC on the cap. Is the meter OK? You measured the voltage right at the two legs of the cap?
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • newtothis
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 1556
                          • england

                          #13
                          Re: Saumsung le40b554m2w; Sound but no picture

                          DMM set to AC or DC?

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                          • tom66
                            EVs Rule
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 32560
                            • UK

                            #14
                            Re: Saumsung le40b554m2w; Sound but no picture

                            Also check meter battery. And incoming mains voltage, could be very poor house wiring.
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                            • newtothis
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 1556
                              • england

                              #15
                              Re: Saumsung le40b554m2w; Sound but no picture

                              Originally posted by tom66
                              Also check meter battery.
                              Not with your DMM though LOL (sorry have to put fun into this repairing malarky!)

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                              • donst
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2013
                                • 56
                                • uk

                                #16
                                Re: Saumsung le40b554m2w; Sound but no picture

                                Hi, sorry guys, was using an old analogue multimeter yesterday that seems to be for whatever reason faulty. So switched to a digital multimeter today and both caps measure at 389V.
                                Last edited by donst; 11-21-2013, 08:51 AM.

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                                • donst
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                                  • Nov 2013
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                                  • uk

                                  #17
                                  Re: Saumsung le40b554m2w; Sound but no picture

                                  Hi, any suggestions on what i should try next?

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                                  • donst
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                                    • Nov 2013
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                                    • uk

                                    #18
                                    Re: Saumsung le40b554m2w; Sound but no picture

                                    anyone?

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                                    • donst
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                                      • Nov 2013
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                                      • uk

                                      #19
                                      Re: Saumsung le40b554m2w; Sound but no picture

                                      Anyone, please? Would be greatly appreciated. As we have identified the backlight to be the issue, would simply switching the bulb for the backlight possibly work?

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                                      • tom66
                                        EVs Rule
                                        • Apr 2011
                                        • 32560
                                        • UK

                                        #20
                                        Re: Saumsung le40b554m2w; Sound but no picture

                                        Ahhh sorry totally missed your posts. Please identify if there is a small black, 4 legged device on your board labelled PCI801S. It will cross the boundary between primary and secondary. If so, please check the voltage between pins 3 and 4, the only two leads on the secondary side.
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