Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

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  • WumpusRX
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    • Oct 2013
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    #21
    Re: Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

    Would that account for the lack of sound also? Or does the TCON just controll the back light?

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    • tom66
      EVs Rule
      • Apr 2011
      • 32560
      • UK

      #22
      Re: Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

      T-con controls image on screen, only. Backlight sync is a feature of some LCDs which improves fast moving scenes.

      No sound can be caused by not having the TV on the right input mode or having it muted, etc. This can be hard to verify if you can't see the screen work.
      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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      • WumpusRX
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        #23
        Re: Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

        Hmm. Well when the issue occured my wife just turned the tv off. When I turned it back on i flipped through all of the inputs and didn't get any sound out.

        I will replace the TCON to see if the picture comes back and then hopefully tht will help my diagnose the sound issue.

        Thank you for your help!!

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        • tom66
          EVs Rule
          • Apr 2011
          • 32560
          • UK

          #24
          Re: Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

          Before you replace the t-con check the fuse on it and any voltage regulators, if you need help post a pic of the t-con.
          Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
          For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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          • WumpusRX
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            #25
            Re: Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

            There is a pic of the TCON on page one.

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            • WumpusRX
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              #26
              Re: Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

              I don't see any fuses (assuming they are labeled "F#") and only one voltage regulator (labeled VR1), which is reading 195 mV, on the TCON board.
              Last edited by WumpusRX; 10-31-2013, 05:03 PM.

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
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                #27
                Re: Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

                CP1 (Circuit Protection) is the FUSE with "O" code on top.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • WumpusRX
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                  #28
                  Re: Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

                  AH awesome thanks.

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                  • WumpusRX
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                    #29
                    Re: Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

                    Ok Here is what I see.

                    It looks like LP1 has the "O" in it and CP1 is above that. If measure LP1 I get 1.149 V on both sides. If I measure CP1 I get 1.145 on one side and 0 on the other.
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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
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                      #30
                      Re: Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

                      OK, with this better view of the board, it is FP1 with UD printing on top (the designator printings do not line up with the components). Black probe on the chassis, red probe on each end of the fuse, report the DC voltage readings.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • WumpusRX
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                        #31
                        Re: Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

                        1.126 on both sides of FP1

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                        • budm
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                          • Feb 2010
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                          #32
                          Re: Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

                          When TV is turn on and when TV is turn off, if that is the case, the mainboard is not sending the 12V to run the T-CON board. So if the T-CON is not getting the power to run, that may explain why the backlights will not come on.
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • WumpusRX
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                            • United States

                            #33
                            Re: Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

                            Those readings were TV on.

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                            • WumpusRX
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                              #34
                              Re: Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

                              What about the wires that bridge the Main Board and the TCON. I'm not seeing 12V on any of those wires. Is there supposed to be 12V going from the main board to the TCON?

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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #35
                                Re: Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

                                The main board supplies the 12V Voltage through the LVDS cable (cable between the T-CON and the main board). If You check the resistance from one end of the fuse on the T-CON, there should be at least one pin on the main board that will show <1 Ohm, that will be the voltage pin. The voltage top the T-CON is fed through a switched MOSFET which is turn on when the power switch is activated. It can be that the micro controller is not sending the signal to turn on that MOSFET.
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                • WumpusRX
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                                  • Oct 2013
                                  • 25
                                  • United States

                                  #36
                                  Re: Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

                                  Alright I'm gonna need some help with that one.

                                  Is this the area I'm supposed to be looking?

                                  Also what is the button on the Main Board for...just curious.
                                  Attached Files

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                                  • WumpusRX
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                                    • Oct 2013
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                                    #37
                                    Re: Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

                                    Bump. Still confused as to where I am supposed to check the resistance.

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                                    • budm
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2010
                                      • 40746
                                      • USA

                                      #38
                                      Re: Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 No Picture, No Sound W/ Voltages

                                      That pin 51 on the T-CON should have the low resistance read back to the connector on the main board, so if you look at that cable, see how that wire on pin 51 is connected to on the main board.
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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