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  • wreksta
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Aug 2013
    • 508
    • england

    #1

    ps50q96hd no picture

    another plasma

    this one has no picture at all power I presume works atm
    the ymain has a light on it this indicates a fault doesn't it?

    have disconnected both x and y but still no picture
    with the x and y disconnected the tcon control board led flashed every second as its supposed to but with x and y connected the control boards led is fully lit

    any ideas
  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #2
    Re: ps50q96hd no picture

    Yes y-main LED indicates fault.
    Check y-buffers for burnt IC and y-main for burnt mosfets, resistors and zeners
    Also check y-main capacitor 100uF/50V can fail near Vs power connector
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    • tom66
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      #3
      Re: ps50q96hd no picture

      Panel manuals maybe? For Philips but same panel as this Samsung I believe.

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      • wreksta
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        • Aug 2013
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        #4
        Re: ps50q96hd no picture

        Originally posted by tom66
        Yes y-main LED indicates fault.
        Check y-buffers for burnt IC and y-main for burnt mosfets, resistors and zeners
        Also check y-main capacitor 100uF/50V can fail near Vs power connector
        tom nothing burned or bown
        should I just change that cap the on on the ymain is not bulging or anything also
        could power board cause this I get 205 at vs on the y so ive proberbly answered my own question

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        • wreksta
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          #5
          Re: ps50q96hd no picture

          changed cap still the same anything else to look out for

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          • tom66
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            #6
            Re: ps50q96hd no picture

            Check all semiconductors for shorts, check buffer board
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            • wreksta
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              • Aug 2013
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              #7
              Re: ps50q96hd no picture

              want to give me a clue on how to test semi conductors mate im earning slowly lol

              buffers are they the lower boards or the ones directly connected to the y main

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              • tom66
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                #8
                Re: ps50q96hd no picture

                Just check for shorts on semiconductors. There are plenty of tutorials on the internet, just google "test mosfet for shorts" etc. Buffers are connected to y-main. Also check -Vsc voltage.
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                • wreksta
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                  #9
                  Re: ps50q96hd no picture

                  tom theres no test point for that

                  ive tested ve and vs both are dead on

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                  • tom66
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                    #10
                    Re: ps50q96hd no picture

                    If you provided some pictures of the Y-main it may help.
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                    • wreksta
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                      #11
                      Re: ps50q96hd no picture

                      will do tom heres a thing I only have 14-15v on ve
                      what causes this

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                      • tom66
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                        #12
                        Re: ps50q96hd no picture

                        You probably also have low -Vsc due to short somewhere. How about a picture?
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                        • wreksta
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                          #13
                          Re: ps50q96hd no picture

                          have added pictures of everything










                          this cap near lower buffer connection looks a little funny due to someone incorrectly fitting it and ruinng the via so I took it to the closest positive point in track

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                          • tom66
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                            #14
                            Re: ps50q96hd no picture

                            "SD" cap is not low ESR and may cause problems.

                            Any chance of a higher detail picture of the Y-main board? I want to be able to see any test points visible.
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                            • wreksta
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                              #15
                              Re: ps50q96hd no picture

                              tom after testing allsorts lol

                              disconnected y from buffers still the same so buffers seem ok not heating up etc

                              disconnected x main and problem still exists

                              I finally found the vscan adj and test point

                              so my findings are the when tv first powered I get 195 as on the panel sticker but soon as I get the green led on y main voltageon vscan drops all the way to 0.0

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                              • tom66
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                                #16
                                Re: ps50q96hd no picture

                                That is normal if there is a fault -- you need to track down why the LED is lighting up -- would suggest checking Vset and +Vsch (if available.)
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                                • wreksta
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                                  #17
                                  Re: ps50q96hd no picture

                                  cant find test points or any of those mate just the adjusters

                                  they are long yfr
                                  an long yset

                                  need a dummies guide for mosfet testing the ones on the heatsink
                                  can I test them in circuit or need to remove

                                  also the cap nr the fuse top right of y main what the values I believe this one been changed for a diff type as looks rather large
                                  and the one I modify to lie down


                                  also forgot to add should the tv power up as soon as plug is plugged in this is without hitting power button or stnby on remote as this set does
                                  Last edited by wreksta; 09-09-2013, 01:04 PM.

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                                  • tom66
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                                    #18
                                    Re: ps50q96hd no picture

                                    These models do power on automatically that is fine.

                                    MOSFET testing: http://www.4qdtec.com/mostest.html

                                    Mostly, they can be left in circuit.

                                    You have not yet provided a larger image of the Y-main so I can't advise on any poorly labelled test points etc.

                                    The cap near the top of the board is 100uF/50V or 470uF/25V they changed it middle of the design I believe.
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                                    • wreksta
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                                      #19
                                      Re: ps50q96hd no picture

                                      Originally posted by tom66
                                      These models do power on automatically that is fine.


                                      The cap near the top of the board is 100uF/50V or 470uF/25V they changed it middle of the design I believe.
                                      tom the last person that messed with this has a 1000uf 35v this is one right nr ymain power connector and fuse


                                      would this be bad

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                                      • wreksta
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                                        #20
                                        Re: ps50q96hd no picture

                                        also will post pic of ymain il do it in so the board is photographed via 4 sections

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