Dantax DVB-C 700 digibox chopper controller keeps failing

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  • munuainen
    Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 40

    #1

    Dantax DVB-C 700 digibox chopper controller keeps failing

    Hi there,

    I got this Dantax cable TV digibox for free some time ago...I think it had suffered a mains voltage spike due to a lightning strike. Now trying to get it back working.

    Initial inspection revealed that the chopper controller / mosfet chip TNY265PN had exploded. What was left of the mosfet drain pin was still attached to PCB but not to the chip anymore.

    HV side of the circuit is constructed pretty much according to TNY datasheet recommended layout on page 12. All components in HV branches measured fine offline.

    I had a TNY267PN I had salvaged from somewhere lying around. Replaced, turned the digibox on, something emitted an audible snap and the chip was dead. I figured either the chip was already somehow damaged or then there must be something else wrong with the circuit.

    I got a good deal on a 5-pack of TNY266s on eBay. They arrived just today. Replaced, turned on....nothing goes off instantly, front panel leds are alive, chopper transformer secondary voltages seem ok. I went a few steps away to get the remote to see if it worked. Came back and the system was dead again.

    Drain voltage is fine, steady ~ 325VDC (230V * sqrt(2)), so I suppose the culprit must lie somewhere in the feedback system. Other than FB exceeding the absolute maximum ratings (haven't had a chance to measure if it does), I don't see what could keep destroying the chip. I mean, TNYs have short circuit and over temperature protection so they should be immune to those, right? Right after the most recent failure the chip was quite warm, though. The print on the top had partially faded away, apparently due to heat.

    Attached are the datasheet and pictures of the PCB. I've swapped and aligned the back side pic for easy comparison in image editors.
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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Dantax DVB-C 700 digibox chopper controller keeps failing

    The snubber network (DIODE/R/C) is OK for the protection of the TNY? How about the secondary side rectifier diodes and the loads are OK?
    Last edited by budm; 07-31-2013, 09:27 AM.
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • mr2013e
      Elc. Engineer
      • Jul 2013
      • 41
      • TURKEY

      #3
      Re: Dantax DVB-C 700 digibox chopper controller keeps failing

      how is fault?
      Last edited by mr2013e; 07-31-2013, 10:01 AM.

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      • mr2013e
        Elc. Engineer
        • Jul 2013
        • 41
        • TURKEY

        #4
        Re: Dantax DVB-C 700 digibox chopper controller keeps failing

        check +vcc of TNY266 and other pin voltages

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        • munuainen
          Member
          • Jul 2010
          • 40

          #5
          Re: Dantax DVB-C 700 digibox chopper controller keeps failing

          Sorry it's been a while...been busy with tons of other things.
          Originally posted by budm
          The snubber network (DIODE/R/C) is OK for the protection of the TNY? How about the secondary side rectifier diodes and the loads are OK?
          Snubber seems fine. All components measure correct values off-circuit. Secondary rectifiers are ok too. How would I go about measuring secondary loads?
          Originally posted by mr2013e
          check +vcc of TNY266 and other pin voltages
          Well, yeah, I surely would, if I had a way to make sure firing the circuit up wouldn't keep destroying my remaining yet functional TNYs.

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          • Th3_uN1Qu3
            Believe in
            • Jul 2010
            • 6031
            • Romania

            #6
            Re: Dantax DVB-C 700 digibox chopper controller keeps failing

            Originally posted by munuainen
            yeah, I surely would, if I had a way to make sure firing the circuit up wouldn't keep destroying my remaining yet functional TNYs.
            "Dim Bulb Tester". Google it. Likely the first result will be from an antique radio site, but this simple piece of equipment you can build in 10 minutes is of invaluable help when troubleshooting anything mains-powered. The only requirement is that you absoutely have to use a good old-fashioned filament bulb.

            I've gotten so used to it that i never plug any unknown SMPS to the wall socket directly, i always use the bulb. Same when i'm modifying/building a power supply from scratch. I keep it plugged with the bulb in series until the final full load test.

            By the sound of it you'll want to use a 40W lightbulb at most for this one. If the bulb lights up and then fades, everything's fine and you go to the next step: measuring voltages. If the bulb lights and stays on solid, you've got a short. Unplug and check.
            Last edited by Th3_uN1Qu3; 08-18-2013, 07:52 PM.
            Originally posted by PeteS in CA
            Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
            A working TV? How boring!

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Dantax DVB-C 700 digibox chopper controller keeps failing

              This what I built:
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/bud...tml?sort=3&o=0
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/bud...tml?sort=3&o=1
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/bud...tml?sort=3&o=3
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • ben7
                Capaholic
                • Jan 2011
                • 4059
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Dantax DVB-C 700 digibox chopper controller keeps failing

                My guess is something else on the mainboard blew too, besides the PSU.
                Muh-soggy-knee

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