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  • fuxxy
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Jan 2013
    • 318
    • USA

    #1

    Samsung LN32C540 - Standby Light only.

    Samsung LN32C540 - Plug in, shows standby light. Unit won't do anything else.

    Under the direction of another thread with the same model, I unplugged the logic board form the power supply, and got 5.13V from A5V. After jumpering A5V to PS_ON, PSU did not put anything out on B5V or B13V. Suspect power supply board failure.

    The thing is, I don't see any physical oddities on the board at all. No bulged caps, no burnt traces, no discolored resin.

    Is there anything I could do to diagnose this board further?
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  • budm
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    • Feb 2010
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    #2
    Re: Samsung LN32C540 - Standby Light only.

    What DC voltage do you get at that main filter cap (rated 450vdc) in the primary side, measure it right at the two pins of the cap when the TV is plugged in but not turn on, and after it is turn on? Be careful, you will be working on the LINE side, deadly side, so do not touch any thing with your hands.
    Last edited by budm; 07-22-2013, 07:06 PM.
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    • fuxxy
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Jan 2013
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      #3
      Re: Samsung LN32C540 - Standby Light only.

      379 vdc

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      • anmol
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2012
        • 73
        • India

        #4
        Re: Samsung LN32C540 - Standby Light only.

        BN44-00338B schematic

        Regards
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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
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          #5
          Re: Samsung LN32C540 - Standby Light only.

          You are getting the PFC Voltage boosting OK, that means the PS_ON (that means the 5BSTY is working) is working and also the 5V otherwise you will not be getting that boosted voltage.
          Something in measurement is not right.
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          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
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          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • jtcoosie
            New Member
            • Oct 2013
            • 1
            • usa

            #6
            Re: Samsung LN32C540 - Standby Light only.

            Hi everyone, this is my first post i hope it helps

            I have been working on the same problem. Samsung LN32C540 - Standby Light only. this is how i fixed it. on the power supply board BN44-00338B i replaced "ICM801 FSFR-1700US" and "CM808 630V 18nF". Before repair i measured 11v on 24v output(PIN 14 OF CN803) and 5.4 v on 13v output(pin 17 of cn802) and the 5v output(PIN 14 OF CN802) was correct. It has now been working for 1 week 23/7 (not a typo, i put 23) turning it off for about 15 min. a few times a day. there are people selling these parts as a kit on ebay just search the power supply model number.

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            • jhay6711
              New Member
              • Oct 2013
              • 2
              • United States

              #7
              Re: Samsung LN32C540 - Standby Light only.

              Originally posted by jtcoosie
              Hi everyone, this is my first post i hope it helps

              I have been working on the same problem. Samsung LN32C540 - Standby Light only. this is how i fixed it. on the power supply board BN44-00338B i replaced "ICM801 FSFR-1700US" and "CM808 630V 18nF". Before repair i measured 11v on 24v output(PIN 14 OF CN803) and 5.4 v on 13v output(pin 17 of cn802) and the 5v output(PIN 14 OF CN802) was correct. It has now been working for 1 week 23/7 (not a typo, i put 23) turning it off for about 15 min. a few times a day. there are people selling these parts as a kit on ebay just search the power supply model number.
              Hi I got a same problem with my tv can you tell us what is this part you replaced? I'm sorry but I'm very new at this I tried to find it online but no luck. can you also post a picture

              thanks

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
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                #8
                Re: Samsung LN32C540 - Standby Light only.

                He replaced the SMPS ICM801 (Black flat pack IC mounting on the heatsink) and the Capacitor CM808 (.018UF 630V). If you look at the board, you will see those two comonents.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
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                • jhay6711
                  New Member
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 2
                  • United States

                  #9
                  Re: Samsung LN32C540 - Standby Light only.

                  Originally posted by budm
                  He replaced the SMPS ICM801 (Black flat pack IC mounting on the heatsink) and the Capacitor CM808 (.018UF 630V). If you look at the board, you will see those two comonents.
                  thanks. I hope I can get one of that in local electronic store.

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Samsung LN32C540 - Standby Light only.

                    ICM801 will have to get from EBAY.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • v13
                      New Member
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 2
                      • Lithuania

                      #11
                      Re: Samsung LN32C540 - Standby Light only.

                      Possible no need of replacing IC. Measure capacitance CM808 and if it is not 18nF then change it and tadam...

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                      • still4given
                        Member
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 24
                        • usa

                        #12
                        Re: Samsung LN32C540 - Standby Light only.

                        Hi Guys,

                        This is my first post. I build DIY Audio amps so I am familiar with electronic components. My Daughter has this Samsung TV that won't power on so she asked me to look at it. Google brought me here so I am looking for advice. I pulled the SMPS and have been testing it. Where I should see 24V I see a fluctuating 3V. I pulled CM808 and it reads 17nF on my cap meter so I'm thinking it is probably OK. I see about 170V across CP801S and I read somewhere it should be double that. Does all this point to the ICM801 FSFR-1700US? I can find those in a few places but before I order one I thought it wise to ask here.

                        Any help will be greatly appreciated.

                        Blessings, Terry

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                        • djromann
                          New Member
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 4
                          • Italia

                          #13
                          Re: Samsung LN32C540 - Standby Light only.

                          My case, an Samsung LE37C530 series (Power Supply- DONG YANG BN44-00338B Model: P2632HD_ADY) had the same trouble- TV only in standby, not turn on; I changed only the CM808 capacitor and noted it was a little inflated. However, I didn't find the right one to change (18nF 630V) so I put an 10nF 2kV from an old desktop PC power supply, TV works fine!!!

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: Samsung LN32C540 - Standby Light only.

                            Using 10nF instead of 18nF, the transformer will not get full drive Voltage, so to get the correct drive Voltage on the Primary winding the drive circuit will have to work harder since Xc is about twice as much as before.
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • Xaqman
                              New Member
                              • Oct 2015
                              • 6
                              • United states

                              #15
                              Re: Samsung LN32C540 - Standby Light only.

                              Hey guys,
                              Thanks for posting the helpful info. on this problem.

                              I've pulled my BN44-00338B power supply board, and tested the capacitor at CM-808 per https://youtu.be/ASMOVbOZac0. I get a bit over 8v, which, according to the vid. means my cap is bad. I'd like to replace just that cap, since a kit for all of them is $23, but that one alone looks to be in the $4 range.

                              My question is, on the cap's label, what do the numbers to the right of the vertical bar indicate? I can find versions on ebay that look to be rated the same, but have different number on the right side of the black bar.

                              http://www.ebay.com/itm/2J183J-SIC-4...-/161260169142

                              Mine has a '10' over a '19'. Is that related to physical size/pin-spacing?

                              Again, thanks for contributing to the community here, and thanks for any help!

                              Zach

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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: Samsung LN32C540 - Standby Light only.

                                You should check the capacitance of that cap, but more likely it has lost its capacitance.
                                The lead spacing is 15mm.
                                SIC capacitor spec: https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...589#post600589

                                The kit does not come with that cap, most kits just provide the electrolytics caps.
                                The cap per that picture is 0.018uF 5% 630V, Polypropylene cap.
                                Last edited by budm; 10-28-2015, 02:05 PM.
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                • Xaqman
                                  New Member
                                  • Oct 2015
                                  • 6
                                  • United states

                                  #17
                                  Re: Samsung LN32C540 - Standby Light only.

                                  My digital multimeter doesn't have a capacitance testing function. The ebay link is for just the SIC cap, not a kit, but there is a kit that does include it, which is the $23 version. The ones that don't run about $12.

                                  No idea what the numbers on the right mean? I did decode the nF and tolerance rating of the cap, but wanted to nail down those other numbers to ensure I didn't order the wrong part.

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                                  • budm
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 40746
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: Samsung LN32C540 - Standby Light only.

                                    "No idea what the numbers on the right mean?"
                                    No, and it does not mean anything to me, I just order the right value and right type.
                                    Your board does not use SIC cap?
                                    BTW, you might as well replace the electrolytics caps as set any way.
                                    Also did you check the Boosted Voltage to make sure it is >380VDC?
                                    Last edited by budm; 10-28-2015, 02:37 PM.
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                    • Xaqman
                                      New Member
                                      • Oct 2015
                                      • 6
                                      • United states

                                      #19
                                      Re: Samsung LN32C540 - Standby Light only.

                                      Yes, checked that, but it's only showing 375VDC.

                                      It does use the SIC cap, that's the one I was asking about. The electrolytic caps look ok (zero bulging/scorching), but I see what you're getting at (as long as I'm in there...).

                                      Edit: I wasn't aware of the >380VDC spec.
                                      Last edited by Xaqman; 10-28-2015, 02:50 PM.

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                                      • budm
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                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 40746
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: Samsung LN32C540 - Standby Light only.

                                        'Yes, checked that, but it's only showing 375VDC.' That is close enough, we just want to make sure the PFC is functioning.
                                        Bad caps can look normal but they can have High ESR.
                                        BTW, those number next to bar can be date code, factory location codes, batch codes, etc.
                                        Last edited by budm; 10-28-2015, 02:52 PM.
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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