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  • kevinm34232
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    • May 2012
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    #41
    Re: Sony KDL-40S504 6 blinks

    On the white side of the board is where i measure the other transformers, I assuming they're the secondary pins.. This transformer is reverse and I when measure those same pins it is very low ohms and with ring tester, no lights so Im thinking winding may be shorted or something..

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    • kevinm34232
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      #42
      Re: Sony KDL-40S504 6 blinks

      Oh ok thanks that settles that.. time to open her up..

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      • budm
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        #43
        Re: Sony KDL-40S504 6 blinks

        That current sensing transformer is related to the FB pin, but I believe you are having OLP problem, so remove the board and inspect the fingers and the sockets first. In the service manual for this setup, it has big warning with regarding to how the lamps are put inplace and warning about breaking the lamps if not done properly. I cannot find that training manual yet. There may be SONY training manual for your chassis on Elektrotanya website.
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

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        • budm
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          #44
          Re: Sony KDL-40S504 6 blinks

          My ringer shows about 10~15 rings for the CT101 on my SENCORE 75 ring tester. About the same on the rest of other transformer as well.
          Last edited by budm; 06-10-2013, 06:54 PM.
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • kevinm34232
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            #45
            Re: Sony KDL-40S504 6 blinks

            Are you talking about the between same the 2 pins I have marked? Because on CT101 those show no LED's indicating a short but the others show medium 4 LEDs rings on my blue ring tester..

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            • truep
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              • Aug 2010
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              #46
              Re: Sony KDL-40S504 6 blinks

              I have a similar model. Does anyone know the procedure to disconnect the high voltage cable? I can unlock it but it doesn't want to come off. I don't want to break it.

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              • kevinm34232
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                #47
                Re: Sony KDL-40S504 6 blinks

                I see what you mean, but just pull the tab and wiggle it, it will come loose..

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                • kevinm34232
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                  #48
                  Re: Sony KDL-40S504 6 blinks

                  I cut OLP trace going to U1 that carries the 8.4V, backlight does not come on at all but tv still goes on then off with 6 blinks. DET has nothing. I am trying to bypass this error just to see a dark spot from a bulb out.. It seems to need this voltage..

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                  • budm
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                    #49
                    Re: Sony KDL-40S504 6 blinks

                    Yes, they are the same test pins on my transformer.
                    Since we know that the LD signal goes low when the lights go out. Can you disconnect the LD line from the balancer to the power supply board to see what happen?
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • kevinm34232
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                      #50
                      Re: Sony KDL-40S504 6 blinks

                      Yea I will test if that's been done but I think that may have been done by cutting the OLP trace of U1. Well maybe not that was showing 12.4v the same as the DET.

                      Are schematics available for these balancer boards?
                      Last edited by kevinm34232; 06-10-2013, 10:05 PM.

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                      • kevinm34232
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                        #51
                        Re: Sony KDL-40S504 6 blinks

                        Ok bud disco'd the 2 LD lines from inverter board to PS board... Tv backlight stayed on, seemed normal at first then this is what I got not sure what to make of it...
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                        • retiredcaps
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                          #52
                          Re: Sony KDL-40S504 6 blinks

                          Originally posted by tom66
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                          • kevinm34232
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                            #53
                            Re: Sony KDL-40S504 6 blinks

                            OMG lol I knew that was coming... now beam me up .. Scotty.. or Scottie before I hear it..
                            Last edited by kevinm34232; 06-10-2013, 10:43 PM.

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                            • kevinm34232
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                              #54
                              Re: Sony KDL-40S504 6 blinks

                              So on a more "logical" note, I can get a picture and sound without LD connected, but video is not right.. not sure if you can see by picture but it's got that out of contrast/gamma look.. Is this a different issue? Don't see any dark bars on screen I suppose I should find a white source..
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                              • budm
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                                #55
                                Re: Sony KDL-40S504 6 blinks

                                Yes, try white screen some how, then turn the backlights level (not brightness) up and down to see if you can see any dark band. It does look like you have other problem also.
                                Last edited by budm; 06-11-2013, 12:11 AM.
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                • tom66
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                                  #56
                                  Re: Sony KDL-40S504 6 blinks

                                  Looks like wrong LVDS mode/T-con type.
                                  Perhaps owner put wrong T-con in set?
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                                  • kevinm34232
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                                    #57
                                    Re: Sony KDL-40S504 6 blinks

                                    Here's a pic with the menu on also. It doesn't seem to affect the OSD at all.

                                    Is that streak in the background a type of Sony background?

                                    Also Im going to try to find a white screen on the DVR and see if I can see a bad bulb..
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                                    • tom66
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                                      #58
                                      Re: Sony KDL-40S504 6 blinks

                                      It's not normal...
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                                      • kevinm34232
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                                        #59
                                        Re: Sony KDL-40S504 6 blinks

                                        Im wondering if this has anything to do with the firmware update I did before I was able to get a picture. I do not know how it looked before I updated it..

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                                        • tom66
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                                          #60
                                          Re: Sony KDL-40S504 6 blinks

                                          Can you put the original firmware back on?
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