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  • PowerAmpFreak
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Feb 2010
    • 982
    • Sweden

    #1

    Samsung LE40A756 no backlight

    Samsung LE40A756 tries to start the backlight (checked the INV ON/OFF signal) but doesn't succeed and then starts over and over...
    The powersupply is BN44-00197A with integrated HV supply.
    Caps replaced, the obvious supply voltages seems to be OK, but no HV output from inverter.
    Inverter power circuit measures OK.
    Any good advice on this?
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  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #2
    Re: Samsung LE40A756 no backlight

    Schematic.
    http://www.tgohome.com/ServiceManual...&Search=Submit

    May be useful...
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    • selldoor
      Slow Learner
      • Dec 2010
      • 7870

      #3
      Re: Samsung LE40A756 no backlight

      Picture of the inverter board?
      Any fuses on there
      Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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      • tom66
        EVs Rule
        • Apr 2011
        • 32560
        • UK

        #4
        Re: Samsung LE40A756 no backlight

        This uses integrated high voltage mains driven inverter.
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        • selldoor
          Slow Learner
          • Dec 2010
          • 7870

          #5
          Re: Samsung LE40A756 no backlight

          Ok Tom - so does it have a distribution board - is it one where if a lamp is out you can trick it by shorting the lamp connector and it will run with a dark stripe where the bulb is out?



          EDIT EDIT yes it does have a board 21 transformers on it!!
          Last edited by selldoor; 03-31-2013, 07:36 AM.
          Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Samsung LE40A756 no backlight

            What happen if you disconnect the cable between the main board and the power supply board? It does have Balancer board with current transformers for each lamp. There should be FB pin on the inverter board, and it should have 0VDC if the lamps do not draw over current.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

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            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • PowerAmpFreak
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Feb 2010
              • 982
              • Sweden

              #7
              Re: Samsung LE40A756 no backlight

              It appears to be something wrong with mainboard after all. The INVERTER ON signal just goes +39mV when set "should" start inverter. This is true even if the cable between mainboard and psu is disconnected. I haven't forced INVERTER ON signal to +5V yet, but as far as I can see, all powersupply voltages are correct from powersupply.
              So it boils down to some mainboard problem..

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              • PowerAmpFreak
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Feb 2010
                • 982
                • Sweden

                #8
                Re: Samsung LE40A756 no backlight

                With the risk of sounding a bit confusing (I take the risk ) close to the 6-pin ribboncable going from mainboard to psu, containing the INVERTER ON signal, there is proper +5V as soon as inverter should start, but that proper +5V is pulled down by a transistor on mainboard. Have to dig deep into this I assume...

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                • tom66
                  EVs Rule
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 32560
                  • UK

                  #9
                  Re: Samsung LE40A756 no backlight

                  Could be a bad eeprom or t-con fault (unplug t-con -- a shorted t-con can crash main board.)
                  Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                  For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                  • PowerAmpFreak
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 982
                    • Sweden

                    #10
                    Re: Samsung LE40A756 no backlight

                    Originally posted by tom66
                    Could be a bad eeprom or t-con fault (unplug t-con -- a shorted t-con can crash main board.)
                    Yeah, could be a corrupt eeprom. Wonder if it can be cured by shorting SDA and SCL during powerup (as can be done on other LE40XXXX...)
                    Didn't know, though, a bad t-con could crash mainboard. Will check! Thanks, Tomie

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                    • PowerAmpFreak
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 982
                      • Sweden

                      #11
                      Re: Samsung LE40A756 no backlight

                      Unplugging T-con won't do any difference. The set reacts to poweron, then enables the PSU. The cooling fan starts to spin. Two seconds later, the fan stops and set tries to restart. Just like it doesn't get the proper voltages from psu, but they're all there.
                      STBY 5.3V measures actually 5.1VDC, and 13V measures 12,3VDC, but I guess those are close enough. So, conclusion is corrupt mainboard?

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                      • selldoor
                        Slow Learner
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 7870

                        #12
                        Re: Samsung LE40A756 no backlight

                        Did you try jumping the bl on yet?
                        Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                        • PowerAmpFreak
                          Badcaps Veteran
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 982
                          • Sweden

                          #13
                          Re: Samsung LE40A756 no backlight

                          Originally posted by selldoor
                          Did you try jumping the bl on yet?
                          Never did, it has been shown that problem is not in the backlight drive area. The mainboard does not want to power up the backlight, probably because it's corrupt.

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                          • tom66
                            EVs Rule
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 32560
                            • UK

                            #14
                            Re: Samsung LE40A756 no backlight

                            Chek DET5V or 5VDET
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                            • PowerAmpFreak
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 982
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                              #15
                              Re: Samsung LE40A756 no backlight

                              Originally posted by tom66
                              Chek DET5V or 5VDET
                              That is OK. It's directly connected to 5V so it comes alive as soon as PSU ON gets on. It appears the owner of this set wants to terminate repair attempts. So this may be the end of all this. I will get back as soon as I know for sure.

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