Samsung LNS3251DA won’t power on, no sound, no standby light-power board problems

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  • BmD_Online
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    #41
    Re: Samsung LNS3251DA won't power on, no sound, no standby light-power board problem

    I'm answering myself :
    T6.3AH250VP (really difficult to read).
    I's time delay one (T...).

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    • BmD_Online
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      #42
      Re: Samsung LNS3251DA won't power on, no sound, no standby light-power board problem

      Tried with right fuse, but same problem !
      I have double checked all capacitors and RM801. All OK.
      IC is correct too.

      I have a doubt about connecting LCD inverter to CM802 or CM803. I haven't checked before deconnecting it !
      Last edited by BmD_Online; 01-18-2020, 10:27 AM.

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      • vinceroger69
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        • Mar 2012
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        #43
        Re: Samsung LNS3251DA won't power on, no sound, no standby light-power board problem

        have you checked the bridge rectifier for shorts? also maybe build yourself a dim bulb tester as it will save you keep blowing fuses and show if a short is still present.
        http://www.geek-tips.com/2015/11/22/dim-bulb-tester/
        Last edited by vinceroger69; 01-18-2020, 10:50 AM.

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        • BmD_Online
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          #44
          Re: Samsung LNS3251DA won't power on, no sound, no standby light-power board problem

          You're right. ts4b05g shorts between each pins (kept soldered).
          I don't know dim bulb tester. I will have a look.

          My parents (it's not my TV) found a new Samsung for less than 180€. They bought it !
          I will try to repair this one, but just for fun.
          At some point, the repair is no longer going to be profitable !

          I will try to change bridge rectifier.
          Wait and see.

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          • vinceroger69
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            #45
            Re: Samsung LNS3251DA won't power on, no sound, no standby light-power board problem

            remove the part and test out of circuit just in case your getting false readings

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            • BmD_Online
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              #46
              Re: Samsung LNS3251DA won't power on, no sound, no standby light-power board problem

              Damn. Really hard to unscrew and unsolder !
              Attached Files

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              • vinceroger69
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                • Mar 2012
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                #47
                Re: Samsung LNS3251DA won't power on, no sound, no standby light-power board problem

                add some fresh solder too the joints makes removing it easier can you use a small pair of needle nosed pliers to loosen the screw? if not maybe remove that capacitor in front of it.

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                • budm
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                  • Feb 2010
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                  #48
                  Re: Samsung LNS3251DA won't power on, no sound, no standby light-power board problem

                  What are the RESISTANCE reading between + and - , and between ~ and ~ of that bridge rectifier?
                  Did you also check the RESISTANCE between the S and D pin of the PFC MOSFET QP801S?
                  Samsung BN96-03057A (PSLF201501B) Power Supply.
                  Last edited by budm; 01-18-2020, 02:34 PM.
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • BmD_Online
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                    #49
                    Re: Samsung LNS3251DA won't power on, no sound, no standby light-power board problem

                    Hi,
                    between + and -, I read 1 ohm
                    between ~ and ~, I read 5.4 ohms

                    QP801S ? You're talking about F9222L ICM801S ?
                    I read different values according to my multimeter :
                    in diode mode : 480
                    in resistance mode, weirded values, changing during reading

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                    • budm
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                      #50
                      Re: Samsung LNS3251DA won't power on, no sound, no standby light-power board problem

                      QP801S is a MOSFET for the PFC circuit, it is mounted on the same heatsing where PFC Diode DP802 is.
                      Pictures provided by shopjimmy:
                      Samsung BN96-03057A (PSLF201501B)
                      Attached Files
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • BmD_Online
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                        #51
                        Re: Samsung LNS3251DA won't power on, no sound, no standby light-power board problem

                        Yes, got it : W20NM60 mosfet.
                        I read 0.6 ohm between S and D

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                        • budm
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                          #52
                          Re: Samsung LNS3251DA won't power on, no sound, no standby light-power board problem

                          I would remove that retest it off the board before trying to remove the bridge rectifier.
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • BmD_Online
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                            #53
                            Re: Samsung LNS3251DA won't power on, no sound, no standby light-power board problem

                            Phew, I've removed it !

                            Using my multimeter or using an electronic tester (mtester) I read different values.
                            See attached pictures.

                            Using multimeter, I read 0.7 Ohm.
                            Using mtester, I read different values around 10-15K, sometimes around 5K.
                            Attached Files

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                            • budm
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                              #54
                              Re: Samsung LNS3251DA won't power on, no sound, no standby light-power board problem

                              https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1579443332
                              That MOSFET is shorted, now recheck the resistance between + and - pins of the bridge again, also between ~ and ~ of the bridge again.
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                              • BmD_Online
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                                #55
                                Re: Samsung LNS3251DA won't power on, no sound, no standby light-power board problem

                                Resistance is the same between + and -, and between ~and ~ : about 77K.
                                I will change the MOSFET !

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                                • budm
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                                  #56
                                  Re: Samsung LNS3251DA won't power on, no sound, no standby light-power board problem

                                  Originally posted by BmD_Online
                                  Resistance is the same between + and -, and between ~and ~ : about 77K.
                                  I will change the MOSFET !
                                  Good, the low Ohms reading you were getting before was due to shorted out PFC MOSFET.
                                  You should replace the PFC Controller IC at the same time since more likely it is also damage when the MOSFET shorted out, it MAY cause the damage to the new MOSFET if you do not replace it.
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                  • BmD_Online
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                                    #57
                                    Re: Samsung LNS3251DA won't power on, no sound, no standby light-power board problem

                                    Which component is "PFC Controller IC" ?
                                    Please don't tell me it's ICP801S (tda4863-2) ! SMD component, I hate them !

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                                    • budm
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                                      #58
                                      Re: Samsung LNS3251DA won't power on, no sound, no standby light-power board problem

                                      Originally posted by BmD_Online
                                      Which component is "PFC Controller IC" ?
                                      Please don't tell me it's ICP801S (tda4863-2) ! SMD component, I hate them !
                                      Yep, it is.
                                      https://cdn.badcaps-static.com/pdfs/...7e28445b8e.pdf

                                      Also make sure RP819 is still good, it should be <1 Ohms + your meter probes resistance.
                                      Last edited by budm; 01-20-2020, 11:11 PM.
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                      • BmD_Online
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                                        #59
                                        Re: Samsung LNS3251DA won't power on, no sound, no standby light-power board problem

                                        Soldered, I read 0.8 Ohms.
                                        Probing my meter itselt, I have about 0.6-0.7 Ohms.
                                        I can't be more precise.

                                        Edit : Soldered, not Unsoldered !
                                        Last edited by BmD_Online; 01-21-2020, 12:17 AM.

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                                        • budm
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                                          • Feb 2010
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                                          • USA

                                          #60
                                          Re: Samsung LNS3251DA won't power on, no sound, no standby light-power board problem

                                          That is fine.
                                          Never stop learning
                                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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