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  • topfli8979
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Oct 2012
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    #1

    Sanyo DP 42848 No picture

    Have a Sanyo DP42848 lcd, upon intial plug in, get picture then it shuts down. Also known as "2-seconds to black". No bulged caps on ps,inverters,or main.
    Did find a couple shorted mini 3 leg fet's that show short, ONLY when the tv is plugged in but not powered on. When unplugged from the wall NO SHORT.
    Any input?
  • topfli8979
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    • Oct 2012
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    #2
    Re: Sanyo DP 42848 No picture

    Alll of the voltages are fine,24,12,+5 standby, all steady even after tv loses picture.

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    • tom66
      EVs Rule
      • Apr 2011
      • 32560
      • UK

      #3
      Re: Sanyo DP 42848 No picture

      Check BLON is steady.
      Pictures would also be appreciated.
      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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      • johnboy1313
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        • Nov 2012
        • 1959
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        #4
        Re: Sanyo DP 42848 No picture

        I had the same problem with the same model. Turned out to be two burned out ccfl bulbs. Check my posts.

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        • topfli8979
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          • Oct 2012
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          #5
          Re: Sanyo DP 42848 No picture

          Yeah I have read through every post for sanyo lcd. I dont know what's going on. Bl_SW goes to 3volts on power up then drops out to millivolts when screen goes to dark.

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          • tom66
            EVs Rule
            • Apr 2011
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            #6
            Re: Sanyo DP 42848 No picture

            Main board failure.
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            • topfli8979
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              Re: Sanyo DP 42848 No picture

              Ok, was thinking that also. I do have a sanyo dp46841 with a cracked screen. Working main board, identical to the 42 main in every way except for the k5l backlight connector is not on the 46 board, but has a spot for it, could I just solder the connector from the 42 onto the 46 board?

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              • tom66
                EVs Rule
                • Apr 2011
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                #8
                Re: Sanyo DP 42848 No picture

                Possibly. There is the chance of panel incompatibility between the boards, but it's likely to work.
                Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
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                • johnboy1313
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                  • Nov 2012
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                  #9
                  Re: Sanyo DP 42848 No picture

                  On my set, with the connector circled in the pic below unplugged from the main board, the backlights would light for ~15 seconds rather than ~2 with the connector plugged in. If this is the case, I'd still suspect burnt out bulbs. If I remember correctly, my BL_SW voltage dropped out as well when the backlights shut off.

                  Note, I'm pretty sure this was the connector, it ran to the master inverter. I do remember that it was only two wires and this is the only two wire connector that I see in my pictures. If you could post a clear picture of the back of your TV with the cover off, it might jog my memory.
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                  • johnboy1313
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Nov 2012
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                    #10
                    Re: Sanyo DP 42848 No picture

                    OK, I guess I should have read my own thread a little closer.

                    From my thread...
                    "With K8L disconnected, the lamps will light immediately at power on and stay on for ~15 seconds, with a picture."

                    So, if that connector is labeled K8L, it is the correct one. If not, look for K8L and disconnect it.

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                    • topfli8979
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                      #11
                      Re: Sanyo DP 42848 No picture

                      I saw that in your thread last night, and disconnected kl8. All it did was come on instantly and shutoff just as fast as with it connected.

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                      • topfli8979
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                        #12
                        Re: Sanyo DP 42848 No picture

                        I tried changing k8l connector to a spare identical board I had from a sanyo 46 lcd, the tv would not even recognize it. Would not do anything. So from there I went to disassemble the panel and have a look at the ccfl's. They are all intact and working correctly, no burnt or broken bulbs.

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                        • kevinm34232
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                          • May 2012
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                          #13
                          Re: Sanyo DP 42848 No picture

                          Tom could he jump BL_SW with another source and see if the backlight stays on? Could that be a permanent fix?

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                          • tom66
                            EVs Rule
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 32560
                            • UK

                            #14
                            Re: Sanyo DP 42848 No picture

                            It might keep the backlight on, but if the main board is switching off the backlight, chance is everything else is too, i.e. video outputs and/or power supply.
                            Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                            For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                            • topfli8979
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                              #15
                              Re: Sanyo DP 42848 No picture

                              I am gonna keep searching on the main board for the short, these boards are $100 online. Sanyo Tv not worth that kind of money for board repair. Will let ya know if I find anything.

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                              • topfli8979
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                                #16
                                Re: Sanyo DP 42848 No picture

                                I wanted to share this, when I was removing the front lcd panel to look at the ccfl's. The backlight seemed to stay on longer with the panel connected to t-con. Almost 15 seconds. As soon as I hooked everything back up, went back to 2 seconds to dark.

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                                • budm
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                                  • Feb 2010
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                                  #17
                                  Re: Sanyo DP 42848 No picture

                                  It may use the error signal from T-CON board to tell the unit to shutdown. Do you have the LCD PANEL model number as printed on the panel? Also monitor the voltage on the T-CON board fuse to see what you have when you turn on the TV and after it goes into shutdown.
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                  • topfli8979
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                                    • Oct 2012
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Sanyo DP 42848 No picture

                                    14.88 volts, same with backlight on and after backlight shutdown.

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                                    • budm
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                                      • Feb 2010
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                                      #19
                                      Re: Sanyo DP 42848 No picture

                                      That seems too high, mot upper limit for T-CON is about 15V at most. Is your meter batteries good? LCD panel spec will tell us what the voltage should be for this LCD panel.
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                      • topfli8979
                                        Badcaps Veteran
                                        • Oct 2012
                                        • 311
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                                        #20
                                        Re: Sanyo DP 42848 No picture

                                        Lcd panel model # T420HW01 V-2.

                                        There is not a sticker specifying what the voltages should be.
                                        Last edited by topfli8979; 01-14-2013, 11:12 PM.

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