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  • 2smoovedaddy
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    • Aug 2012
    • 42
    • United States

    #1

    DX-L32-10a won't power on stuck in standby

    All voltages are good 5,12,24. C610,C611,N603 on the right side of the board in the pic of the main board are getting extremely hot to touch. Any ideas. There's no picture standby light is on but nothing when power is pressed. I've went through another post on here of the same exact model and tried all those things. Thanks!
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  • 2smoovedaddy
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    • Aug 2012
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    #2
    Re: DX-L32-10a won't power on stuck in standby

    Tv is Dynex by the way.

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    • retiredcaps
      Badcaps Legend
      • Apr 2010
      • 9271

      #3
      Re: DX-L32-10a won't power on stuck in standby

      1) Did you change the capacitors on the power board? It is strange to see Rubycon caps (quality) mixed in with Changex? (crap).

      2) Measure your voltage regulators to see if they are within specification (see below).
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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #4
        Re: DX-L32-10a won't power on stuck in standby

        Those two caps should never get hot to touch at all unless the N603 (NUMBER???) gets so hot that it heats up that area. You should get the voltage reading on the caps and on all 3 pins of that N603.
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • 2smoovedaddy
          Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 42
          • United States

          #5
          Re: DX-L32-10a won't power on stuck in standby

          Thanks RetiredCaps and Bud. N602,603,604 are hot as hell as are the caps surrounding them. I need a little help interpreting these voltage regs. N603 is AZ1117D 3.3EI and it looks good. The other 2(n602,604) are 1117L and I looked at the data sheet but i was lost. Heres the readings.

          N602 N603 N604
          1)2.01V 1)0V 1).5V
          2)3.25V 2)3.31V 2)1.78V
          3)5.29V 3)4.95V 3)3.30V

          Voltage Across
          C610=4.96V
          C611=3.30V
          C621=3.32V

          Thanks for your help.

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          • 2smoovedaddy
            Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 42
            • United States

            #6
            Re: DX-L32-10a won't power on stuck in standby

            Bump

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #7
              Re: DX-L32-10a won't power on stuck in standby

              The Voltages of the regulators are normal, still the caps should not be hot at all, something does not make sense yet, those cap should be bulging right now with that much heat.
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • 2smoovedaddy
                Member
                • Aug 2012
                • 42
                • United States

                #8
                Re: DX-L32-10a won't power on stuck in standby

                Thanks BundM. Just an update. We pulled the N603(AZ1117D3.3ei) and now none of those caps get hot. Could that be the problem.

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                • 2smoovedaddy
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                  #9
                  Re: DX-L32-10a won't power on stuck in standby

                  bump

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                  • 2smoovedaddy
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                    • Aug 2012
                    • 42
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                    #10
                    Re: DX-L32-10a won't power on stuck in standby

                    bump

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: DX-L32-10a won't power on stuck in standby

                      OK. for the regulator to get that hot and causes the surrounding component to get hot also, it means that too much current is flowing through the regulator. But I do expect the regulator to go into shut down mode. Not sure what else to tell you at this point.
                      You can take the resistance reading between chassis ground and each pad of the regulator to see if the output is feeding the current into really low Ohm.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • tom66
                        EVs Rule
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 32560
                        • UK

                        #12
                        Re: DX-L32-10a won't power on stuck in standby

                        If the regulator is oscillating, the capacitors will get hot.
                        The regulator can oscillate if the capacitors on the output fail.
                        Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                        For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                        • budm
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 40746
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: DX-L32-10a won't power on stuck in standby

                          Thanks, Tom, I forgot about that, may be he should replace the caps for the input pin and the output pin at the same time. He does not have the scope to look for the oscilltion, so replacing caps may be the easiest thing to do.
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • tom66
                            EVs Rule
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 32560
                            • UK

                            #14
                            Re: DX-L32-10a won't power on stuck in standby

                            Also, usually (not always) when the regulator oscillates, the output will be a little low, maybe 5% or so. Most LDOs are 1% or 2% grade.
                            Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                            For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                            • 2smoovedaddy
                              Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 42
                              • United States

                              #15
                              Re: DX-L32-10a won't power on stuck in standby

                              Thanks guys replaced N603 and no go. N604 gets hot as sh*t as does c10 and c11. Whats the easiest way to remove those smt caps on the input/output. Tried an iron but no go. Also emailed Dynex for a schematic. Thanks!

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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: DX-L32-10a won't power on stuck in standby

                                But you did not replace the caps, the circuits will oscillate if the filter caps are bad a s Tom has pointed out.
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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