Ilo, two biggies bad, should I use these?

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  • Uranium-235
    Comrade Glimmer
    • Aug 2007
    • 5042
    • US
    #1

    Ilo, two biggies bad, should I use these?

    Yes my first LCD TV in all my time here. a ~40" Ilo TV, had two small caps replaced once, and now its two 400v 100uf are fried. These look legit, what you think?

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/100UF-400V-N...item1e6689c782

    these

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rubycon-capa...item337dbd82f6

    look suspicious


    maybeee these?

    http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...cL%2FhHR3M8%3D

    maybe I should choose something from this list

    http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...cL%2FhHR3M8%3D
    Last edited by Uranium-235; 11-14-2012, 08:39 PM.
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    • retiredcaps
      Badcaps Legend
      • Apr 2010
      • 9271
      #2
      Re: Ilo, two biggies bad, should I use these?

      Since you live in the USA and digikey has reasonable shipping costs (typically under $3 USD for first class shipping), I suggest avoiding anything on ebay. The Rubycon's are likely fake. The date code looks all wrong.
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        • Mr Bill
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Nov 2011
          • 648
          • USA
          #3
          Re: Ilo, two biggies bad, should I use these?

          Originally posted by retiredcaps
          Since you live in the USA and digikey has reasonable shipping costs (typically under $3 USD for first class shipping), I suggest avoiding anything on ebay. The Rubycon's are likely fake. The date code looks all wrong.
          I 100% agree. I tend to only use ebay if it's a last resort effort.

          Here is a digikey link for a Chemicon KXG for $2.84. It's Ripple is 765mA
          http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...1469-ND/755985

          Here is for a panasonic EE for $4.28. Its ripple is 2.6A but the length is a little longer than the one chemicon above (40mm)
          http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...670-ND/1245999

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            • Uranium-235
              Comrade Glimmer
              • Aug 2007
              • 5042
              • US
              #4
              Re: Ilo, two biggies bad, should I use these?

              I found it at mouser for cheaper

              so happens I live in mansfield, TX, where mouser HQ is, its actually 5 mins from me. I know a guy who works there, he says you don't have to have a business license anymore to buys caps

              http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...57H04F9g%3d%3d
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                • retiredcaps
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 9271
                  #5
                  Re: Ilo, two biggies bad, should I use these?

                  Originally posted by Uranium-235
                  so happens I live in mansfield, TX, where mouser HQ is, its actually 5 mins from me.
                  Well, then it is an easy choice.

                  I only mention digikey because I know what is mailing costs are. I don't know them for mouser.
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                    • Mr Bill
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 648
                      • USA
                      #6
                      Re: Ilo, two biggies bad, should I use these?

                      I only mention digikey because I know what is mailing costs are. I don't know them for mouser.
                      Mouser's shipping is $6.95 for up to 1 pound in the US (priority mail only). I typically use digikey since the shipping lead time is quicker and what i order almost always weighs less than 13 ounces so it can be mailed via first class mail. But i have ordered from mouser is what i need is out of stock elswhere. But if you live 5 minutes away, driving up there and getting them directly is the way to go.

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                        • Uranium-235
                          Comrade Glimmer
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 5042
                          • US
                          #7
                          Re: Ilo, two biggies bad, should I use these?

                          I'm a bit weary of using UCC caps, and the panasonic EE linked above are 40x18, the current ones are 35.5x18, and the extra height puts the vent very close to a mosfet heatsink (the one that is most 'burned' is the one that is closest to this heatsink)

                          I found a nichicon on mouser that is 580ma, 35.5x16, where the current cap (Capxon) is 550MA, its nichicon and its close enough, right?
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                            • Uranium-235
                              Comrade Glimmer
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 5042
                              • US
                              #8
                              Re: Ilo, two biggies bad, should I use these?

                              ya know what, I was wrong the whole time, these are 450v!

                              I picked up 400's nichicon 10,000hrs from mouser a few hours ago. I'll keep them, never know when I might need them

                              of the 450's only one that had a 35mm length (all others had 40-50) was 2000 hrs and they're out of stock for two days. oh well, i'm not going anywhere
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                                • Uranium-235
                                  Comrade Glimmer
                                  • Aug 2007
                                  • 5042
                                  • US
                                  #9
                                  Re: Ilo, two biggies bad, should I use these?

                                  is the voltage on these caps right from the ac? would it be ok to use 400's in place of 450's?
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                                    • tom66
                                      EVs Rule
                                      • Apr 2011
                                      • 32560
                                      • UK
                                      #10
                                      Re: Ilo, two biggies bad, should I use these?

                                      Most likely using PFC so bus voltage could be 400V nominal... 400V caps might be too sensitive with regards to running very close to limits possibly exceeding them.
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                                        • Uranium-235
                                          Comrade Glimmer
                                          • Aug 2007
                                          • 5042
                                          • US
                                          #11
                                          Re: Ilo, two biggies bad, should I use these?

                                          ok so the caps I was going to order are waay too far out, so i'm going to have to get some 40mm length instead of 35, it fits, but puts the top of the cap awfully close to a reg heatsink, I might have to come up with some insulator to place between them. anyways, these were what I was hoping to get

                                          http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...uvOy%252bMt9w=

                                          but I have a quetsion about the leakage, the current leakage on the capxon KM's are <= 0.01 and the leakage on these nichicons are 0.06

                                          leakage is something i'm actually not sure about, I never paid much attention to that value, so i'm not sure and need some gurus opinion
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                                            • tom66
                                              EVs Rule
                                              • Apr 2011
                                              • 32560
                                              • UK
                                              #12
                                              Re: Ilo, two biggies bad, should I use these?

                                              No need to be concerned about leakage in this instance. Only if it is a startup cap or battery powered.
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