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  • heavymachines
    Badcaps Legend
    • Mar 2011
    • 1028
    • United States

    #1

    Seiki se421tt

    Hi i have this 42 inch led tv, i replaced the power board and the new one is doing same thing as old, it will run for few hours then shut off. Let it cool down and it will work again for few hours, I noticed the transformer gets very hot assuming this is the reason it shuts off display and power led will remain blue.
    Any help will be greatly appreciated, when i got this tv in here base was broke and cord was cut, i fixed the base and eliminated the cord to a 3 prong socket out of a junk power supply for a computer, cut a hole in the plastic casing to mount the new socket and looks very nice... any ideas what could be causeing the transformer to get too hot?
  • gilly1984
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Jun 2012
    • 751
    • UK

    #2
    Re: Seiki se421tt

    Is there a fan anywhere? If not try running a 12v pc fan over the hot are and see if it goes off. Could do some more handy work and fit it nicely into the case.
    Do NOT touch heatsinks when testing for voltages as they may be LIVE!

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    • heavymachines
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      • Mar 2011
      • 1028
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      #3
      Re: Seiki se421tt

      its pretty thin panel i will check it out, good idea will report results...

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      • gilly1984
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Jun 2012
        • 751
        • UK

        #4
        Re: Seiki se421tt

        Originally posted by heavymachines
        its pretty thin panel i will check it out, good idea will report results...
        Oh yh, you said led.

        Still worth a try.
        Do NOT touch heatsinks when testing for voltages as they may be LIVE!

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        • heavymachines
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          • Mar 2011
          • 1028
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          #5
          Re: Seiki se421tt

          Nope still does it, shuts off with fan transformer still too hot and used a 120mm fan
          ..
          Last edited by heavymachines; 10-16-2012, 04:01 PM.

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          • heavymachines
            Badcaps Legend
            • Mar 2011
            • 1028
            • United States

            #6
            Re: Seiki se421tt

            and power board is all samxon caps could this cause the transformer to get hot? or something causing too much resistance and where to look?
            thanks for any input
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            • heavymachines
              Badcaps Legend
              • Mar 2011
              • 1028
              • United States

              #7
              Re: Seiki se421tt

              Originally posted by heavymachines
              Nope still does it, shuts off with fan transformer still too hot and used a 120mm fan
              ..

              well not near as hot as it was before the fan but what gives it weird it will run for few hours before shutoff...

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              • gilly1984
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Jun 2012
                • 751
                • UK

                #8
                Re: Seiki se421tt

                Originally posted by heavymachines
                well not near as hot as it was before the fan but what gives it weird it will run for few hours before shutoff...
                Its probable nothing to do with the tranny.

                You have replaced the psu so whats left? Never had an led before so no idea of the boards inside.

                Does it have inverters? Im guessing not?
                Do NOT touch heatsinks when testing for voltages as they may be LIVE!

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                • tom66
                  EVs Rule
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 32560
                  • UK

                  #9
                  Re: Seiki se421tt

                  It will use about 90-150V to light the series strings of LEDs.

                  If a single LED fails, the TV will not run the backlight.
                  Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                  For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                  • heavymachines
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 1028
                    • United States

                    #10
                    Re: Seiki se421tt

                    Originally posted by gilly1984
                    Its probable nothing to do with the tranny.

                    You have replaced the psu so whats left? Never had an led before so no idea of the boards inside.

                    Does it have inverters? Im guessing not?
                    no inverters, ..... hence led lol... it seems to be consistent at 2 hours.
                    the tv is not that old...

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                    • tom66
                      EVs Rule
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 32560
                      • UK

                      #11
                      Re: Seiki se421tt

                      I'd think cold solder joint, tried using a hairdryer to heat up parts of the board and see when it cuts out?
                      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                      • gilly1984
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 751
                        • UK

                        #12
                        Re: Seiki se421tt

                        Originally posted by heavymachines
                        no inverters, ..... hence led lol... it seems to be consistent at 2 hours.
                        the tv is not that old...
                        New to this ha ha, Kind of figured there wouldnt be inverters.

                        Try what tom says, if theres a person that knows, its tom.

                        What boards are in an led tv?
                        Do NOT touch heatsinks when testing for voltages as they may be LIVE!

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                        • gilly1984
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                          • Jun 2012
                          • 751
                          • UK

                          #13
                          Re: Seiki se421tt

                          And just looked at that psu again, now,,, is it just me or are they making more simple things then charging us extra? Just that the psu look so empty?
                          Do NOT touch heatsinks when testing for voltages as they may be LIVE!

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                          • heavymachines
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 1028
                            • United States

                            #14
                            Re: Seiki se421tt

                            Originally posted by gilly1984
                            And just looked at that psu again, now,,, is it just me or are they making more simple things then charging us extra? Just that the psu look so empty?
                            all three boards are small and fairly simple however like you i am new to led...I am aware of tom66 knowledge he helped me in the past, he is awesome help and i fully respect his suggestions and will apply those suggestions...Thanks tom66 i will try your suggestion when i get back to the shop in the morning...

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                            • heavymachines
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 1028
                              • United States

                              #15
                              Re: Seiki se421tt

                              also since its smart gonna check to see if shutoff timer er something dumb is set....

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                              • infringer
                                Badcaps Member
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 244
                                • United Frickin States

                                #16
                                Re: Seiki se421tt

                                if one led fails they all fail? Interesting the old Xmas light syndrome that is just completely retarded imho... I actually opted for two LED TV's as an upgrade to the CCFL type for power savings how insane 1 LED goes out and it won't light up I suppose it isn't impossible to replace an LED but ... The real pain comes from getting to the backlight in the first place lol very poor engineering talk about a way to get you to buy a TV sooner lol at they rate they charge each LED should have a backup led in case one does fail.
                                Please note: I am not responsible for any harm caused to you anything discussed is just discussion. Before you try anything discussed be sure that you have the appropriate knowledge and safety gear for the job. Like with anything education and safety are first! Do not try anything @ home without it.

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                                • budm
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Feb 2010
                                  • 40746
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: Seiki se421tt

                                  From the look of the power board, there are at least two LED strings for this TV which is typical.
                                  For examples:
                                  This 40" has 2 LED strings with 125 LEDs per string for edge lit panel.
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/albums/y...20UN40D5005BF/

                                  32" with backlit panel. Two LED strings.
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/albums/y...2EH4050F%20TV/
                                  Last edited by budm; 10-16-2012, 10:05 PM.
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                  • heavymachines
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Mar 2011
                                    • 1028
                                    • United States

                                    #18
                                    Re: Seiki se421tt

                                    I think it has 4 strings of led those 4 small matching connectors are for the led backlight.

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                                    • budm
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2010
                                      • 40746
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: Seiki se421tt

                                      They should be labeled with something like DRV1+, DRV1-, DRV2+, DRV2-, etc.
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                      • budm
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 40746
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: Seiki se421tt

                                        Which transformer that gets hot? The large one in the center or the top right for the PFC.
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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