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  • olegi
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2012
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    • Canada

    #181
    Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN question

    What did you do exactly?
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    Last edited by olegi; 10-09-2012, 06:27 AM.

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    • tibimakai
      Badcaps Legend
      • Jan 2012
      • 3680
      • USA

      #182
      Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN question

      I have placed the DMM probes to the LED DRV. pins and I have started it up, then I have touched the two pins on that opto and for a second the light bulb(I have a short circuit tester with a 100W bulb) turned on and then off. Then the V Led did not tun on. All this time the voltage haven't changed, stayed at 0.009V.

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      • tibimakai
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        • Jan 2012
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        #183
        Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN question

        Ok, I'm back with the error code blinking.
        I had to replace the 3BS03LJG IC, I was lucky to have an extra one.

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        • tom66
          EVs Rule
          • Apr 2011
          • 32560
          • UK

          #184
          Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN question

          any LED-ON signal or similar coming up?
          Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
          For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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          • tibimakai
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            • Jan 2012
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            #185
            Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN question

            No. I measure 0.009V at the LEDs. At one connector the voltages are positive and at the other are negative. I'm affraid to toch again the opto. It will take more then two weeks to get new ICs.

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            • tibimakai
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              #186
              Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN question

              Do you mean on the bezel? If yes ,then yes the same as before two long and five short blinks.
              Should I take the LCD apart to check for bad LED?
              Last edited by tibimakai; 10-11-2012, 08:26 AM.

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              • Alohamora
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                • Aug 2012
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                #187
                Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN question

                Originally posted by tibimakai
                Do you mean on the bezel? If yes ,then yes the same as before two long and five short blinks.
                Should I take the LCD apart to check for bad LED?
                No. 2 long & 5 short is 12V panel power, i.e. t-con problem or LCD panel short.
                Disconnect both of the flat cables between the t-con and the panel, then power it on. What happens?

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                • tibimakai
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                  • Jan 2012
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                  #188
                  Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN question

                  I have tried disconnecting each cable at a time from the T-con, with no change.
                  At this time I'm suspecting the LEDs in the panel.
                  I will take it apart.
                  Replacement power supply/inverter board didn't change anything(hopefully it was a good board from partstore), removing the EEPROM didn't change anything, there is only the LCD panel left.

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #189
                    Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN question

                    I do not think it will be bad LED assemblies since there are at least two strings of LED and I doubt that both of them went bad at the same time. Iworked on LED backlights monitor last week and one of the pin on the connector for one of the sting was bent, the other string still lights up.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • tibimakai
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                      • Jan 2012
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                      • USA

                      #190
                      Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN question

                      What else can I try?
                      I'm becoming frustrated, I have three monitors(2 small TVs) and three TVs that I'm having a hard time fixing them.
                      42" LG shorted PS, 42" Philips 7422D/37 no power, 24" Asus w/blown components, 22" LG M2262, 22" Samsung w/mystery PWM chip.

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                      • olegi
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 63
                        • Canada

                        #191
                        Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN question

                        Last week I had same model 60" (two long 5 short). SHARP 60" has full 4 LED strings .Problem was Only 1 single led of one string. Tv was very hard to disassemble , because of the size (very fragile to ) Hope this helps.
                        Backlight diodes http://www.sharpsma.com/lighting/led...es/GM2BB45BMAC

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                        • tibimakai
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                          • Jan 2012
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                          #192
                          Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN question

                          I will give it a try. Thank you.
                          I guess it would be very good if we could start the inverter to make sure that it starts, but I don't know how come last time blew that IC.
                          You are sure that that's the opto for that?

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                          • budm
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                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #193
                            Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN question

                            As you can see, there are two transformers that supply the power to the LED strings, one per string, It has to be some thing in that LED drive power supply whcih is common to both strings. Bothe transfoemrs primary are connected in series and driven by the the same set of MSOFETs Q7601A/7601A setup as a half bridge drive. Which IC that you blow when you short the Opto? U????
                            Last edited by budm; 10-12-2012, 12:33 PM.
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • tibimakai
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 3680
                              • USA

                              #194
                              Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN question

                              36BS03LJ.
                              It makes sense, since I'm not getting any increase in voltage at startup.

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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #195
                                Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN question

                                So what voltage do you at pin 19 and 16 of the DDA002? The one in the primary side that drives the 2 MOSFET's.
                                And what is the P/N of the Optos that you hsorted the pins?
                                Last edited by budm; 10-12-2012, 02:13 PM.
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                • tibimakai
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Jan 2012
                                  • 3680
                                  • USA

                                  #196
                                  Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN question

                                  Opto :
                                  Cosmo
                                  1010
                                  817
                                  K12
                                  H
                                  Pin#16= 0.3-0.8V then drops when the code starts
                                  Pin#19= 0.46V
                                  It's not getting the Vcc.
                                  Last edited by tibimakai; 10-12-2012, 05:20 PM.

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                                  • Alohamora
                                    Member
                                    • Aug 2012
                                    • 37
                                    • USA

                                    #197
                                    Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN question

                                    Originally posted by tibimakai
                                    I have tried disconnecting each cable at a time from the T-con, with no change.
                                    At this time I'm suspecting the LEDs in the panel.
                                    I will take it apart.
                                    Replacement power supply/inverter board didn't change anything(hopefully it was a good board from partstore), removing the EEPROM didn't change anything, there is only the LCD panel left.
                                    2 long, 5 short error rarely has anything to do with the backlights. If the power board is good, and you get the same error code with *both* cables between t-con and panel disconnected, that leaves the t-con board or LVDS cable.

                                    Bad backlights give 1 long, 1 short error code.

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                                    • budm
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2010
                                      • 40746
                                      • USA

                                      #198
                                      Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN question

                                      Post 191 "Last week I had same model 60" (two long 5 short). SHARP 60" has full 4 LED strings .Problem was Only 1 single led of one string"
                                      Post 197 "2 long, 5 short error rarely has anything to do with the backlights. If the power board is good, and you get the same error code with *both* cables between t-con and panel disconnected, that leaves the t-con board or LVDS cable.

                                      Bad backlights give 1 long, 1 short error code"

                                      Which one is the correct one? Looks like I will have to download the service manual to find out.
                                      In the mean time, cam you leave the meter on pin16 and see if the VCC voltage even jumps up when you first turn on the TV, that way we can tell if it even try to turn on.
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                      • tibimakai
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Jan 2012
                                        • 3680
                                        • USA

                                        #199
                                        Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN question

                                        Tha is what I did and from 0.3V went to 0.8V and when the code came up went even more down, to 0.009V.

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                                        • budm
                                          Badcaps Legend
                                          • Feb 2010
                                          • 40746
                                          • USA

                                          #200
                                          Re: Sharp LC-40LE810UN question

                                          So right now we are working on the replacement board that you installed because the old one will not always get the 5 and 12V output. And the voltage on the two large caps on primary side does not jump up to 400V either?
                                          Never stop learning
                                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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