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  • sienoki
    sienoki
    • Jan 2012
    • 314

    #1

    DVB recorder box crap

    There seems 2 be tons of these crap boxes failing..whats causing them 2 fail?
    Any1 here worked on 1..looking at a neighbours 25008DTRADG which has fail displayed & nowt works on remote etc..done the unplug wait 5secs then hold power button at front for 5 secs while pugging it in..it show pls wait then FAIL is displayed..any 1 got any..thx
  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #2
    Re: DVB recorder box crap

    HDD failure - is it spinning up, got a spare drive to test?
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    • sienoki
      sienoki
      • Jan 2012
      • 314

      #3
      Re: DVB recorder box crap

      Originally posted by tom66
      HDD failure - is it spinning up, got a spare drive to test?
      Hi tom..yeah ive a spare sata hdd..shall i just format it then stick it in the box?..could i use hdd regenerater to check & fix bad sectors..thx

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      • tom66
        EVs Rule
        • Apr 2011
        • 32560
        • UK

        #4
        Re: DVB recorder box crap

        Worth a shot, as far as I know these things use a custom file system though; if you install a blank disk it may pop up with a message asking you to format.
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        • sienoki
          sienoki
          • Jan 2012
          • 314

          #5
          Re: DVB recorder box crap

          Originally posted by tom66
          Worth a shot, as far as I know these things use a custom file system though; if you install a blank disk it may pop up with a message asking you to format.
          Its a WD hdd installed..i thought these where good hdds..anyways i will see how it goes

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          • tom66
            EVs Rule
            • Apr 2011
            • 32560
            • UK

            #6
            Re: DVB recorder box crap

            Originally posted by sienoki
            Its a WD hdd installed..i thought these where good hdds..anyways i will see how it goes
            All HDDs fail eventually.
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            • sienoki
              sienoki
              • Jan 2012
              • 314

              #7
              Re: DVB recorder box crap

              Originally posted by tom66
              All HDDs fail eventually.
              installed spare hdd & the lcd display lit up then pls wait then fail..with original hdd lcd not lit up so im gonna put hdd in my pc & check for & repair bad sectors & see how that goes

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              • tom66
                EVs Rule
                • Apr 2011
                • 32560
                • UK

                #8
                Re: DVB recorder box crap

                Check all supply voltages. There should be 12V and 5V for HDD, and possibly other supplies e.g. 3.3V or 1.8V.
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                • sienoki
                  sienoki
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 314

                  #9
                  Re: DVB recorder box crap

                  Originally posted by tom66
                  Check all supply voltages. There should be 12V and 5V for HDD, and possibly other supplies e.g. 3.3V or 1.8V.
                  No bad sectors found..the hdd has 3 partitions 2 must be file systems & 232gb for storage..checked voltages & all seems to be good so stumped again..this will probably be heading for the
                  unless i could figure out how to recover them 2 file partions & copy them on another hdd..but how far do you go
                  Last edited by sienoki; 08-21-2012, 06:29 PM.

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                  • sienoki
                    sienoki
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 314

                    #10
                    Re: DVB recorder box crap

                    Originally posted by sienoki
                    No bad sectors found..the hdd has 3 partitions 2 must be file systems & 232gb for storage..checked voltages & all seems to be good so stumped again..this will probably be heading for the
                    unless i could figure out how to recover them 2 file partions & copy them on another hdd..but how far do you go
                    Was going over psu 16PW810S when checking the zenor diodes D22 has continuity both ways..thats wrong yeah?..the diode has a marking of 48 on it..could this be the culprit..thx
                    Tested fine after measuring again..nevermind put it away & get sum kip
                    Last edited by sienoki; 08-21-2012, 07:56 PM.

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                    • tom66
                      EVs Rule
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 32560
                      • UK

                      #11
                      Re: DVB recorder box crap

                      Oh god it's a Vestel PVR! Their TVs are bad enough! Pull the zeners and test.
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                      • sienoki
                        sienoki
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 314

                        #12
                        Re: DVB recorder box crap

                        Originally posted by tom66
                        Oh god it's a Vestel PVR! Their TVs are bad enough! Pull the zeners and test.
                        Neighbour has now given me this as i cant get it working as yet..any of you guys recommend a good PVR thats gonna last..thx

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                        • japlytic
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 2085
                          • Australia

                          #13
                          Re: DVB recorder box crap

                          Some PVRs have poorly designed power supplies, of which can be fatal to connected hard drives if certain rails are not monitored and a critical rail goes out of tolerance - I saw that happen to a Thomson DTR6000AU unit.
                          My first choice in quality Japanese electrolytics is Nippon Chemi-Con, which has been in business since 1931... the quality of electronics is dependent on the quality of the electrolytics.

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                          • sienoki
                            sienoki
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 314

                            #14
                            Re: DVB recorder box crap

                            Originally posted by japlytic
                            Some PVRs have poorly designed power supplies, of which can be fatal to connected hard drives if certain rails are not monitored and a critical rail goes out of tolerance - I saw that happen to a Thomson DTR6000AU unit.
                            Ive figured out this set is a Vestel T845 Top Up TV..so from doing allot of research im gonna try a software upgrade with a usb r232..ordered 1 from ebay & ive got the bin file so fingers crossed it might be saved from the

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                            • sienoki
                              sienoki
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 314

                              #15
                              Re: DVB recorder box crap

                              Originally posted by sienoki
                              Ive figured out this set is a Vestel T845 Top Up TV..so from doing allot of research im gonna try a software upgrade with a usb r232..ordered 1 from ebay & ive got the bin file so fingers crossed it might be saved from the
                              Usb rs232 flashing worked a treat so its saved from the

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                              • tom66
                                EVs Rule
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 32560
                                • UK

                                #16
                                Re: DVB recorder box crap

                                Great to hear. I had a Freesat HD box with the same issue but I just sold it on, should try flashing it next time.
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                                • sienoki
                                  sienoki
                                  • Jan 2012
                                  • 314

                                  #17
                                  Re: DVB recorder box crap

                                  Originally posted by tom66
                                  Great to hear. I had a Freesat HD box with the same issue but I just sold it on, should try flashing it next time.
                                  I joined digital spy forum & got all info needed there..tom would u have a gander at my neon tv when youve settled at uni..if get it fixed split it when sold?..or pay u 4 ur time..thx

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                                  • tom66
                                    EVs Rule
                                    • Apr 2011
                                    • 32560
                                    • UK

                                    #18
                                    Re: DVB recorder box crap

                                    Originally posted by sienoki
                                    I joined digital spy forum & got all info needed there..tom would u have a gander at my neon tv when youve settled at uni..if get it fixed split it when sold?..or pay u 4 ur time..thx
                                    We'll have to see how much time I have available, possibly have to be over the weekend. I arrive 18th Sep, but teaching starts on the 24th. I'll only bring my scope and meter, not much else.
                                    Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
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                                    • sienoki
                                      sienoki
                                      • Jan 2012
                                      • 314

                                      #19
                                      Re: DVB recorder box crap

                                      Originally posted by tom66
                                      We'll have to see how much time I have available, possibly have to be over the weekend. I arrive 18th Sep, but teaching starts on the 24th. I'll only bring my scope and meter, not much else.
                                      Thx..its sat there doing nowt so theres no rush fella..PM me when youve nowt doing

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