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  • whitemus
    Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 35
    • United States

    #21
    Re: LG 37LC2D No Sound, and No Channels

    The 12v drops to 11.0 when the middle is unplugged.

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    • whitemus
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      • Oct 2011
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      • United States

      #22
      Re: LG 37LC2D No Sound, and No Channels

      sorry, I double posted.

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      • tom66
        EVs Rule
        • Apr 2011
        • 32560
        • UK

        #23
        Re: LG 37LC2D No Sound, and No Channels

        So it's almost dropping the same as the 6V does, which leads me to believe there's a short circuit on the board between the 12V and 6V. I have no idea if this could cause your issue - but it's definitely a problem. The higher voltage could potentially cause a voltage regulator (or a few) to overheat, causing some odd problems.

        Did the problem suddenly develop or slowly get worse?

        Can you unplug the TV, wait 30 seconds, then remove the power board and take a clear photo of the under side (green side?) From memory there are MOSFETs providing 6V, which could short-circuit.
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        • whitemus
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          • Oct 2011
          • 35
          • United States

          #24
          Re: LG 37LC2D No Sound, and No Channels

          Okay, well there is definitely a blow out! This must have been the problem the whole time.
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          • whitemus
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            • Oct 2011
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            • United States

            #25
            Re: LG 37LC2D No Sound, and No Channels

            There is also a rattle noise coming from the board when I shake it. Sounds like something is loose inside of something else.

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            • tom66
              EVs Rule
              • Apr 2011
              • 32560
              • UK

              #26
              Re: LG 37LC2D No Sound, and No Channels

              Yeah, these TVs have always amazed me - the power board can have a severe failure and the TV still mostly works. That right there is a MOSFET which has had a bad day.

              The damage is likely to extend further than that MOSFET, so I would say getting a new PSU would be the best option, unless you want to repair 20 other SMD components.

              I think the rattling is the relay, it is normal. When you plug in or turn on your TV you probably hear a click or two, the relay is making that sound. It consists of a contact, which can move, and a coil, which pulls the contact when the coil is energized (current flows through the coil.)

              I just hope that no damage has been done to the main boards.
              Last edited by tom66; 07-24-2012, 01:04 AM.
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              • whitemus
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                • Oct 2011
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                #27
                Re: LG 37LC2D No Sound, and No Channels

                I will try a new PSU and see what happens. Hopefully the rest will be fine. I'm really unsure about the TV not getting channels though. Makes me believe that something else may have blown too. I really appreciate your help! I'll report back and let you know the outcome.

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                • tom66
                  EVs Rule
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 32560
                  • UK

                  #28
                  Re: LG 37LC2D No Sound, and No Channels

                  Originally posted by whitemus
                  I will try a new PSU and see what happens. Hopefully the rest will be fine. I'm really unsure about the TV not getting channels though. Makes me believe that something else may have blown too. I really appreciate your help! I'll report back and let you know the outcome.
                  Visibly check the main boards for signs of burning or damage.

                  Then unplug all of the power connectors and test the resistance between the 6V and case of the TV... I'd guess you should see more than 1k ohm.
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                  • multimeter
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 739
                    • united kingdom

                    #29
                    Re: LG 37LC2D No Sound, and No Channels

                    Originally posted by tom66
                    Visibly check the main boards for signs of burning or damage.

                    Then unplug all of the power connectors and test the resistance between the 6V and case of the TV... I'd guess you should see more than 1k ohm.
                    "I'd guess you should see more than 1k ohm" spot on,i repaired a uk version with bad 6v and a 12v rail the resistance to ground on the rails was 1027kohm,unfortunatley the psu had simular damage from shorted mosfet on solder side,loads of smd fried and open circuit,it was more economical to replace the psu,(bout £25 i think),the tv worked fine after that.
                    fixed so far...376 lg lcd tv's,24 onn tv;s,24 panasonic lcd,16 jvc lcd,12 marshall jcm800 amps,refurb of various disco equipment lighting,old style disco decks ,and a flymo!

                    ----------------------------------------------
                    please let us know if everything works ok if your tv gets fixed, as it will be and aid for anyone else having the same problem and wishing to fix it.it would save people clogging up this site with topics that are duplicated,and can be found easily using the search function.,and taking up valuable space.enjoy your fixed tv!,hopefully!

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                    • ergela
                      Member
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 10
                      • ireland

                      #30
                      Re: LG 37LC2D No Sound, and No Channels

                      Hello, I have a similar problem, no sound.
                      Just voltage on 3.4V is incorrect
                      3.4V-1.16V
                      Middle connector unplugged 1.16V
                      I had 1 bad capacitor, after replacement most of them except 3800uF ( green V mark) beside connectors, no difference
                      When the TV is off few hours sometime the sound is back and the led beside 'x' is lighting. After a few minutes the sound is cracking and getting off then I see this LED gets dark and off
                      Any help is much appreciated !
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                      • tom66
                        EVs Rule
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 32560
                        • UK

                        #31
                        Re: LG 37LC2D No Sound, and No Channels

                        My personal theory is the buck converter IC is failing (8pin SMD on bottom of PSU board) but I've never been able to confirm such.
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                        • ergela
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                          • Jun 2013
                          • 10
                          • ireland

                          #32
                          Re: LG 37LC2D No Sound, and No Channels

                          Thank you Tom66, i just look at the forum on your Thread https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20932 a got the exact same problem and same caps.
                          It is 100% PSU? I think i have no chance to fix this one, can't find this 8pin SMD on the internet and we are not sure 100% is it this one, probably i need to buy a new PSU .

                          Do you mean one of those 8pin SMD?

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                          • tom66
                            EVs Rule
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 32560
                            • UK

                            #33
                            Re: LG 37LC2D No Sound, and No Channels

                            Yes, the one without the large copper areas connected to it, it is the controller chip.
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                            • ergela
                              Member
                              • Jun 2013
                              • 10
                              • ireland

                              #34
                              Re: LG 37LC2D No Sound, and No Channels

                              3037CS
                              611P
                              CC1M7

                              On which number i should look to find one?
                              I found one, it is same or different? I looked at no. 3037cs

                              "8-PIN SYNCHRONOUS PWM CONTROLLER" http://www.datasheet-photos.com/ProI...tNumber=3037CS or here: http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?...20130813071852
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                              Last edited by ergela; 08-13-2013, 09:20 AM.

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                              • tom66
                                EVs Rule
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 32560
                                • UK

                                #35
                                Re: LG 37LC2D No Sound, and No Channels

                                http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_tr...at=0&_from=R40
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                                • ergela
                                  Member
                                  • Jun 2013
                                  • 10
                                  • ireland

                                  #36
                                  Re: LG 37LC2D No Sound, and No Channels

                                  tom66 thank you for your time. So just the no. 3037sc is important? no matter which i will get just must be 3037sc because is see they have different numbers below

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                                  • tom66
                                    EVs Rule
                                    • Apr 2011
                                    • 32560
                                    • UK

                                    #37
                                    Re: LG 37LC2D No Sound, and No Channels

                                    The other numbers are production/lot codes, so not usually important.
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                                    • tom66
                                      EVs Rule
                                      • Apr 2011
                                      • 32560
                                      • UK

                                      #38
                                      Re: LG 37LC2D No Sound, and No Channels

                                      One thing to make sure is that you get the SO-8 or SOP-8 size which matches your board (compare the ratios), not the MSOP, or other sizes.
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                                      • ergela
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                                        • Jun 2013
                                        • 10
                                        • ireland

                                        #39
                                        Re: LG 37LC2D No Sound, and No Channels

                                        Ok I will let you know how it works when I replace. Thank you!

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                                        • ergela
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                                          • Jun 2013
                                          • 10
                                          • ireland

                                          #40
                                          Re: LG 37LC2D No Sound, and No Channels

                                          I replaced 3037sc but no result
                                          After this I swapped this 2 smd beside 3037sc [ 2 are the same] they going there where was a bad capacitor and now 4th red led is on but I think not bright enough.
                                          You think it could be the problem?

                                          Look at the picture, I should look for ic smd IRF7807Z or other numers? http://www.ebay.ie/itm/IRF7807Z-INTE...item2ec7bba515
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                                          Last edited by ergela; 09-05-2013, 06:17 AM.

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