Vestel 17PW19-4 (Intermittent backlight)

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  • kad
    New Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 8
    • UK

    #1

    Vestel 17PW19-4 (Intermittent backlight)

    When I switch on LCD tv Toshiba 23W330DB, the backlight has a continous quick flickering.

    I suspected a problem with the Vestel power supply unit 17PW19-4 (see attached pictures).
    I first measured the output voltage that goes to the inverter and found around 42Volts there!!! (no load i.e. inverter cable disconected).

    Any pointers please?
    Thanks, Kad



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  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #2
    Re: Vestel 17PW19-4 (Intermittent backlight)

    On Vestel power supplies and TVs flickering backlight is often caused by the blue capacitor failing (right next to heatsink - but there are often two), however that usually causes a voltage that is too low, not too high. Try checking it with the inverter plugged in.

    Very disappointing to see Toshiba using Vestel power supplies, as Vestel make some of the worst TVs, especially for service/repair.
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    • kad
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      • Mar 2012
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      #3
      Re: Vestel 17PW19-4 (Intermittent backlight)

      I took the blue cap off. It says 47K and 2KV. I took it to a friend who measured it and found 80pF.
      Does this mean the cap is good or bad?

      Before I put the power supply back in and re-measure the output voltage going to the inverter, I have a silly question. Is it supposed to be a DC or AC 24v voltage coming out of this vestel unit?

      Best Regards,
      Kad

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      • tom66
        EVs Rule
        • Apr 2011
        • 32560
        • UK

        #4
        Re: Vestel 17PW19-4 (Intermittent backlight)

        Originally posted by kad
        I took the blue cap off. It says 47K and 2KV. I took it to a friend who measured it and found 80pF.
        Does this mean the cap is good or bad?

        Before I put the power supply back in and re-measure the output voltage going to the inverter, I have a silly question. Is it supposed to be a DC or AC 24v voltage coming out of this vestel unit?

        Best Regards,
        Kad
        I think that is bad.

        Can you show a picture of it? I think it's supposed to be 4.7nF.

        It's supposed to be DC 24V, usually.
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        • kad
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          • Mar 2012
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          #5
          Re: Vestel 17PW19-4 (Intermittent backlight)

          here is the cap. It looks fine (no cracks,...etc)

          Are you sure it's 4.7nF and not 47nF then?
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          • selldoor
            Slow Learner
            • Dec 2010
            • 7870

            #6
            Re: Vestel 17PW19-4 (Intermittent backlight)

            I believe the 47K is 47000pF which is 0.047uF or 47nF
            Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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            • kad
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              • Mar 2012
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              #7
              Re: Vestel 17PW19-4 (Intermittent backlight)

              hmm! I am confused now.
              Can more guys confirm this cap value please? blue ceramic drop cap with code 47K?

              It's C901 on the Vestel 17PW19-4. Right next to the heat sink.

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              • tom66
                EVs Rule
                • Apr 2011
                • 32560
                • UK

                #8
                Re: Vestel 17PW19-4 (Intermittent backlight)

                Hmm, that looks like a Y-cap. Where did you find it? Y-caps are safety capacitors, they are not generally critical to the operation of the TV though.
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                • kad
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                  • Mar 2012
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                  #9
                  Re: Vestel 17PW19-4 (Intermittent backlight)

                  Please see attached pictures for the location of the C901 cap.
                  Are you talking about the cuboid blue one in the second picture?
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                  • tom66
                    EVs Rule
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 32560
                    • UK

                    #10
                    Re: Vestel 17PW19-4 (Intermittent backlight)

                    Yes, I'm referring to the cuboid one in the second picture. That can sometimes cause this fault.
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                    • alvawilliams
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                      • Jun 2012
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                      • bridgend

                      #11
                      Re: Vestel 17PW19-4 (Intermittent backlight)

                      Hi lads, please can anyone tell me what voltages, i am supposed to
                      get from the 17pw19-4 , i get 24v dc and 10vdc and 33v dc , is that right ?
                      Thanks
                      Alva

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                      • selldoor
                        Slow Learner
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 7870

                        #12
                        Re: Vestel 17PW19-4 (Intermittent backlight)

                        No data for the board you mention but the 17pw20 which I think may be used instead in some applications has

                        33v 24v 12v 5v and 3.3v
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                        It will be useful if you can say what the supposed fault was and a bit about yourself - skills tools etc.
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                        • multimeter
                          Badcaps Veteran
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 739
                          • united kingdom

                          #13
                          Re: Vestel 17PW19-4 (Intermittent backlight)

                          do check for dry joints also,vestel are a pain for it
                          fixed so far...376 lg lcd tv's,24 onn tv;s,24 panasonic lcd,16 jvc lcd,12 marshall jcm800 amps,refurb of various disco equipment lighting,old style disco decks ,and a flymo!

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                          please let us know if everything works ok if your tv gets fixed, as it will be and aid for anyone else having the same problem and wishing to fix it.it would save people clogging up this site with topics that are duplicated,and can be found easily using the search function.,and taking up valuable space.enjoy your fixed tv!,hopefully!

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