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  • ecking767
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    • Oct 2009
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    Panasonic TH-42PX60U With distorted picture

    I was given this Panasonic Plasma TV in non working from a local home theater install company. The unit power off / on with no problem. But the picture is coming on with distortion. I have downloaded the service manual and read it and found nothing related to my problem.

    What I have done so far was:

    I made voltage measurement all in spec.

    Next I started with the buffer board. There is 5 of 74VHCT541AT on each board. swap the 5 74VHCT541AT on one side of board to another and the pattern on the screen swap placed. I couldn't see the menu before the chip swap.So I order from Mouse 10 of these 74VHCT541AT.



    I haven't repair any plasma before but I have work on many LCD monitors and LCD TV. any advise will be helpful

    Thanks
    ecking767
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    Last edited by ecking767; 12-16-2010, 09:31 PM.
  • Th3_uN1Qu3
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    • Jul 2010
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    Re: Panasonic TH-42PX60U With distorted picture

    Well have you swapped the ICs you ordered?
    Originally posted by PeteS in CA
    Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
    A working TV? How boring!

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    • ecking767
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      Re: Panasonic TH-42PX60U With distorted picture

      Originally posted by Th3_uN1Qu3
      Well have you swapped the ICs you ordered?
      Not yeah most likely tonight or this weekend..

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      • ecking767
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        Re: Panasonic TH-42PX60U With distorted picture

        UPDATE: After replacing all 10 of the 74VHCT541AT the picture have improved some but I still have a section of missing picture. Also I have a two pink strips on the screen. I'm going to do more measurements on the buffer board and read the service manual some more. I also excess the test menu and all boards pass.

        any input will help
        thanks
        ecking767
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        • crepiduse
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          • Nov 2010
          • 69

          #5
          Re: Panasonic TH-42PX60U With distorted picture

          Is the screen cracked in the middle? Looks like it.

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          • kevinallein
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            • Dec 2010
            • 32

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            Re: Panasonic TH-42PX60U With distorted picture

            Hi, seems like the second column looked OK in your first picture and has some distortion now after replacing the drivers - is that correct ? This would kind of indicate, that either the new driver has some problem (bad solder, some flux left, ..), or maybe there is a timing sensitivity and different manufacturers of the buffer with slightly different timing make a difference ? Did you have replacement drivers from a different semiconductor manufacturer ?
            Also, the column right of the middle of the screen has problems before and after the swap. Did that same section never work correctly at any stage ?

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            • Wizard
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              • Mar 2008
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              Re: Panasonic TH-42PX60U With distorted picture

              These vertical strips or lines what kind of driver IC looks like (at bottom) is they are replaceable or is bonded to the panel. I see 3 devices failed.

              Cheers, Wizard

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              • ecking767
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                Re: Panasonic TH-42PX60U With distorted picture

                Originally posted by Wizard
                These vertical strips or lines what kind of driver IC looks like (at bottom) is they are replaceable or is bonded to the panel. I see 3 devices failed.

                Cheers, Wizard
                I lost to which 3 chips you are referring too. on the SD and SU board (picture 4 of 5) those chips are glue to the board. I will have to replace the whole board.

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                • ecking767
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                  Re: Panasonic TH-42PX60U With distorted picture

                  Today I pick another Panasonic TH-42PX60U with power up fine but only 90% of the screen show a picture. Between the plasma I should be able to determine whats going on. Either bad PDP screen or bad boards. Tonight I will be doing some board swapping.

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                  • ecking767
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                    Re: Panasonic TH-42PX60U With distorted picture

                    Originally posted by kevinallein
                    Hi, seems like the second column looked OK in your first picture and has some distortion now after replacing the drivers - is that correct ?
                    That correct. I apologize for not posting the actual problem of this plasma TV.

                    Originally posted by kevinallein
                    This would kind of indicate, that either the new driver has some problem (bad solder, some flux left, ..), or maybe there is a timing sensitivity and different manufacturers of the buffer with slightly different timing make a difference ? Did you have replacement drivers from a different semiconductor manufacturer ?
                    Yes, Mouser didn't have the original part I need in Fairchild so I order On Semiconductor replacement. I over look the speed of the replacement. Which was slower. But its strange how It made the screen show a picture.

                    Originally posted by kevinallein
                    Also, the column right of the middle of the screen has problems before and after the swap. Did that same section never work correctly at any stage ?
                    No, I never got a picture in the middle section .I will post a picture tonight of how the screen displaying a picture

                    I think the screen is bad. I have swap board from another unit and same problem is still there. So I will sale the parts inside.
                    Last edited by ecking767; 02-01-2011, 12:04 PM.

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                    • ecking767
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                      Re: Panasonic TH-42PX60U With distorted picture

                      After the C1 & C2 swapping board, THIS put the TV back to the original problem. I have concluded the panel is bad
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                      • Remeniz
                        Thats me!
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 19

                        #12
                        Re: Panasonic TH-42PX60U With distorted picture

                        With vertical problems like this I check the X boards/Address boards. They run along the bottom of the plasma panel.
                        Last edited by Remeniz; 02-02-2011, 06:28 AM.
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                        • ecking767
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                          Re: Panasonic TH-42PX60U With distorted picture

                          Originally posted by Remeniz
                          With vertical problems like this I check the X boards/Address boards. They run along the bottom of the plasma panel.
                          Are you referring to the SCAN Board TNPA3812 & TNPA3813. I brought them both off of eBay and I have another Panasonic TH-42PX60U that display about 90% of a picture on the screen. I will post picture of the 2nd unit problem tonight. Between the two units I wasn't able to get a clear picture either.

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                          • Remeniz
                            Thats me!
                            • Jan 2011
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                            #14
                            Re: Panasonic TH-42PX60U With distorted picture

                            Yep, those are the boards, C1 and C2 data boards in the manual.

                            Double check the connections from the data boards to the PDP and from the D board (Format Converter/Plasma AI/Sub-Field Processor board) according to the manual, to the data boards. This is the area of the problem.
                            Last edited by Remeniz; 02-02-2011, 01:50 PM.
                            Soundcraft CPS-450 and CPS-550 (Rebuilds - Completed!)
                            Samsung PS42V6S - in repair (New Y-SUS Board Completed)
                            Philips 32PFL7782D/05 - in repair (PSU or Main Board - Selling)

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                            • ecking767
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                              Re: Panasonic TH-42PX60U With distorted picture

                              Originally posted by Remeniz
                              Yep, those are the boards, C1 and C2 data boards in the manual.

                              Double check the connections from the data boards to the PDP and from the D board (Format Converter/Plasma AI/Sub-Field Processor board) according to the manual, to the data boards. This is the area of the problem.
                              OK, I will re-check those connection later. I spend a lot of time boards swapping between the two units. I was hoping to narrow down which board or boards was causing the problem. I will also try cleaning these connection going to the data board and Format Converter/Plasma AI/Sub-Field Processor board.

                              The picture below is of the second unit I have acquire. 90% of the screen shows a picture.
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                              Last edited by ecking767; 02-02-2011, 07:36 PM.

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                              • edtv
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                                • Aug 2011
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                                #16
                                Re: Panasonic TH-42PX60U With distorted picture

                                same problem here...surely I hope it's not the panel!!! Anyone seen this lately? Need service manual if any knows where I can download one?

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                                • Toasty
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                                  Re: Panasonic TH-42PX60U With distorted picture

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                                  • AndrewMcBride
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                                    • Feb 2013
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Panasonic TH-42PX60U With distorted picture

                                    Does anyone how to fix this. My Panasonic 50" TH-50PX80U can a few small vertical lines through it.
                                    Thanks
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                                    • tw2005
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                                      • Oct 2011
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                                      #19
                                      Re: Panasonic TH-42PX60U With distorted picture

                                      I had a 42PX70 with this and as far as I could work out it's the drive ic on the panel tabs, not repairable. swapped the c boards , digital board and main boards from another which had no issue and fault remained.

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                                      • almightymopy
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                                        • May 2014
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                                        Re: Panasonic TH-42PX60U With distorted picture

                                        I also have a panasonic th-42px60u but my distorted picture is a little different i have replaced the ysus and xsus board i am providing images these images shown is a xbox connected to the tv via hdmi..
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